mse
Member Since: 27 Jun 2005
Location: Shropshire
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Just about to pick up the discovery today and the dealer have said that i need to pay for the car tax, as they don't tax approved used cars. They then went on to blame the new government car tax system
I think this is a bit rich, especially given the drive away insurance...infact i think Im being taken for a ride!
They didnt mention this at any point other than the morning of the purchase and I have never had to tax a car ive bought, they made a big deal about drive away insurance too - what i think is they are trying to mitigate the deal they did by not paying anything more
I know a few of you will have bought approved used cars from a dealer - did you have to tax it? Mike
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 5th Feb 2018 11:26 am |
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al cope
Member Since: 08 Nov 2005
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yes, every time, new and used - tax isnt a dealer thing, its off to the treasury (via the DVLA).
The tax system changed, and now when you sell a car you claim the unused tax back (only in full months though) and then you tax the repalcement car (again in full months) so best time to change is last day of the month, then there's no tax overlap - otherwise its a nice little earner for the Treasury.
In your case, by changing today you can reclaim unused tax (if there was any) on your old motor from 1st March, but will need to tax new motor from 1st Feb, so there's the 1 month overlap - bad timing I'm afraid.
Al Volvo XC90 B5 Plus Dark
Gone - MY18 D5 HSE - Corris on 22's with Black Pack
Now gone - MY16 D4 SE Tech, Loire Blue, Almond Leather, Privacy, plus some other goodies.
Old - MY12 D4 SDV6 XS Auto - Ipanema Sand with Almond Leather - Plus other niceties, and D4.com sticker
Older - D3 TDV6 XS Auto - Lugano Teal with Almond Leather, 20" Stormers, Shiny Tailpipes, DVD/TV - and obligatory D3 sticker
Ancient - D3 TDV6 S - Tonga with Ebony, 20" Stormers, satnav & DVD
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| 5th Feb 2018 11:31 am |
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mse
Member Since: 27 Jun 2005
Location: Shropshire
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Thanks
I know about the tax changes, but ive never had to tax a car with my usual dealer.
The old car went last week (although its still sitting here waiting for collection!!), so that will be fine
Its more the dealer is asking for me to pay for the new car tax rather than them doing it - saying they cant tax a car? Mike
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| 5th Feb 2018 11:40 am |
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F355GTS
Member Since: 10 Nov 2008
Location: North Hampshire
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I know how you feel, same experience when I bought our used D4 a couple of years ago and yes new system blamed but in truth is they're just keeping more margin, I've bought another used car since then and it came taxed by the dealer for 12 months
Mind you even had a BMW dealer try it on with a new car a few years ago, they capitulated in the end but perhaps not surprising they didn't retain our business Mark
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| 5th Feb 2018 11:42 am |
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al cope
Member Since: 08 Nov 2005
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Ahh - OK, so its the actual action of taxing it, not the cost. In which case no, I'm pretty sure the dealer did it on both my D4's, one approved used and one new, and both were under the new tax system.
Al Volvo XC90 B5 Plus Dark
Gone - MY18 D5 HSE - Corris on 22's with Black Pack
Now gone - MY16 D4 SE Tech, Loire Blue, Almond Leather, Privacy, plus some other goodies.
Old - MY12 D4 SDV6 XS Auto - Ipanema Sand with Almond Leather - Plus other niceties, and D4.com sticker
Older - D3 TDV6 XS Auto - Lugano Teal with Almond Leather, 20" Stormers, Shiny Tailpipes, DVD/TV - and obligatory D3 sticker
Ancient - D3 TDV6 S - Tonga with Ebony, 20" Stormers, satnav & DVD
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| 5th Feb 2018 11:58 am |
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mse
Member Since: 27 Jun 2005
Location: Shropshire
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Maybe thats right with the approved used then 
New is definite (certainly with Guy Salmon) they sort the tax - they do it every year. Mike
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| 5th Feb 2018 12:03 pm |
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Farmer Chalk
Member Since: 07 Mar 2013
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Nope also got stung £500 when picking up my 1 yr old approved used RRS.... I felt the same as you and had wrongly presumed it was part of the deal.... it is what it is.....
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| 5th Feb 2018 4:55 pm |
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Pelyma
Member Since: 06 Jan 2005
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Our Yeti was the same, but not £500. DS3 TDV6 HSE - Silver with Alpaca (old one) Gone
DS3 TDV6 HSE- Silver with Alpaca (new one) Gone
D4 HSE Lux - Montalcino Red Gone
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| 5th Feb 2018 5:04 pm |
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Farmer Chalk
Member Since: 07 Mar 2013
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The ridiculous thing is we only pay less than half that for a 12 Tonne Mercedes Truck!
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| 5th Feb 2018 5:10 pm |
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Hardware
Member Since: 28 Jun 2016
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Pelyma wrote:Our Yeti was the same, but not £500.
2011 D4 isn't £500 either. it's £520 
they can't do it because the tax stays with the owner and not the car. they could obviously allow you £520 to do it but there are soooooo many things that dealers could do for you to and they won't.
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| 5th Feb 2018 5:38 pm |
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ginjeremy
Member Since: 09 Jan 2011
Location: west yorkshire
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The tax will be the least of your worries with approved used !
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| 5th Feb 2018 6:43 pm |
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mse
Member Since: 27 Jun 2005
Location: Shropshire
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I thought £305 was bad (it is)...but £500 is mad?!
Well it does have genuine LR warranty for a few months before it goes into the approved warranty...although its not come home with us as the seat broke and has stayed at the dealers!
I keep toying with rejecting the car but dont know Mike
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| 5th Feb 2018 8:20 pm |
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lynalldiscovery
Member Since: 22 Dec 2009
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Farmer Chalk wrote:The ridiculous thing is we only pay less than half that for a 12 Tonne Mercedes Truck!
I think a 44 tonner is about 750 quid ish and they can get 10mpg, which kind of makes the D3/4 r/rs look very poor mpg wise.
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| 5th Feb 2018 9:12 pm |
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Pedros
Member Since: 25 Jun 2011
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Just a ploy to not pay for the tax. It really doesn't matter who actually applies for the tax and indeed possibly you want to do it for your new car anyway these days, but the cost of the tax, which is what we are really talking about can be borne by the dealer whoever taxes it. Or not. They can simply adjust the price of the vehicle by the amount of the tax surely!
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| 5th Feb 2018 10:28 pm |
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mse
Member Since: 27 Jun 2005
Location: Shropshire
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Thats sort of my point - its an easy extra profit for them, i didnt see the car value drop Mike
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| 6th Feb 2018 12:13 am |
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