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I've been reading the article online, interesting how the designer doesn't want to "upset traditionalists" I think he's failed in that respect. He completely abandoned the Fl2 owners.
It will retain a stepped roofline to accommodate the 7 seats and will retain the practicality of the current model. We will see.
I like the look of it, but the price will put me out.
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26th Dec 2015 1:02 pm
jjvd21
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I'm still not following how LR plan to use the fake vertical air intakes on the lower front bumper in the D5 and 2017 RRS. Both will be similar in shape and size and also share the same design cues, seems like LR are mixing the models too much...
Also, those images above must have 24" wheels with +35 offset, real version wheels will look nothing like that....16 D4 Landmark
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26th Dec 2015 2:35 pm
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Article now online:
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars...aunch-date==================================
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26th Dec 2015 3:12 pm
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It's a very interesting and exciting time... A new Defender for those that want a modern interpretation of the defender with a huge jump in terms of modernity, discovery for those that want the ultimate in practicality and luxury combined.
Let's face it the current D3/D4 took the original RR ethos and delivered perfectly whereas L322 onwards have been far more about luxury and competing with S Class and Bentleys
Only my opinion but, to me, my D4 is the luxury off roader and practical family SUV I always wanted my previous FFRR to be.
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26th Dec 2015 7:16 pm
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jjvd21 wrote:
I'm still not following how LR plan to use the fake vertical air intakes on the lower front bumper in the D5 and 2017 RRS. Both will be similar in shape and size and also share the same design cues, seems like LR are mixing the models too much...
Also, those images above must have 24" wheels with +35 offset, real version wheels will look nothing like that....
I think the RRS has intercoolers or something behind where those air intakes are. Presumably D5 will too.Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
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26th Dec 2015 10:47 pm
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I have said all along g tgat the D5 will be out 1st half on 2016 many said thst was rubbish and it would not be out till 2017 or later. I have also said the price will be very competitive and I still think it will be. Yes there will be a price rise new technologies new model etc but I do not believe it will be the price hike many are forcasting........ I hope MY17 D5 1st Edition Namib Orange
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27th Dec 2015 10:40 am
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Where does it say it will be out in the first half of 2016 Russell ? 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
27th Dec 2015 10:55 am
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Didn't say it did I said I have always said it will be out in 1st half 2016 as for price we will have to wait and see but I do j8t believe there will be a massive price rise compared to current D4sMY17 D5 1st Edition Namib Orange
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27th Dec 2015 10:59 am
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Ah ...I love your optimism ....My forecast is Frankfurt for reveal then sales December \ January on 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
27th Dec 2015 11:04 am
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My nephew who is a senior tech at a LR dealership and is here for Christmas, knows no more about it than we do and said first half launch is possible its unlikely it will be in showrooms till autumn or later. But .......==================================
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There's a heck of a lot of nonsense being spouted in that article.
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a plusher, more upmarket cabin that will be no less practical or versatile than that of the current model.
There's no such thing.
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sportier and more modern-looking than today’s car, but no less practical or versatile.
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He said that, as much as he loved the current car, it was always seen as specialised in its design and ethos, so the new model would be “more universally appealing, without compromises”.
That is a compromise in itself. Everyone has different tastes, and nothing can fit all of them. They think there's no value in a niche market - a key step to loosing your identity.
It strikes me that the D3 is designed, it's very well acclaimed and LR make a great success of it; now they suddenly change their tune and think just about everything is wrong with it. The D3/4 has great style and is very popular for it. The upright stance makes for a comfortable place to be and a large loadspace. The heafty chassis has made it renowned as the best tow car out there. LR are now telling us that's all wrong.
LR seem to be ignoring this factor, which rings true for so many:
dubbs wrote:
Only my opinion but, to me, my D4 is the luxury off roader and practical family SUV I always wanted my previous FFRR to be.
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27th Dec 2015 11:16 am
Russell
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DG wrote:
Ah ...I love your optimism ....My forecast is Frankfurt for reveal then sales December \ January on
Always said May June launch with orders taken from August September and 1st deliveries Dec Jan.
As for dealers being any wiser they never sre until the launch or a week or so beforeMY17 D5 1st Edition Namib Orange
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27th Dec 2015 11:37 am
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I still think there's a chance we'll see it on March 3rd 2016, but not be able to buy one until the end of the year.....
27th Dec 2015 1:04 pm
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I know that there is a lot of staff training booked for September, usually this happens before first deliveries arrive. I think there will be some actual vehicles touring the showrooms May June for those that have placed deposits MY18 RRS Autobiography Fuji White
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27th Dec 2015 3:05 pm
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I think there is 1 driving factor in the design of all new vehicles (my thoughts anyway) stupid pedestrians have forced the front of vehicles to be pedestrian friendly (if there is such a thing) in a collision with them.
I have a new discovery on the way to OZ as we love our current D4 so much even with all the tech upgrades on the next, and I am a huge tech junkie. re price I like the Discovery partly because of the price. High price breeds exclusivity. The more exclusive the better the resale (subject to other factors). Also our new Discovery wont look like a AU$132000+ vehicle but that's the whole point for us so much so we even got the same colour so most people wont know we upgraded (except for the forums I am active in).
Personally the next Discovery 'full' I think will be more desirable for Discovery junkies than the Discovery sport it will just need time for the ones that have to have the new Discovery so they can say so to prove us wrong or for Land Rover to modify further to fix the issues that only real world use can bring to light.
I have been told by our dealer that all slots for the Discovery a gone full stop. A week after we ordered ours there was nothing left available and that last one is supposed to roll off the line by April 2016.
I am off the soap box, NEXT.
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