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If the BBC is to be a publicly funded broadcaster (and I have no problem with it being so although Channel 4 does ok as a commercially funded, public service broadcaster), fund it from general taxation and be done with it. The licence fee is an anachronism and costs money to administer - Capita will take up to £1.5bn between 2012 and 2027, for example*
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10th Jun 2019 2:48 pm
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It follows a consultation with 190,000 people, of which 52% were in favour of reforming or abolishing free licences.
There's that 52% figure again. I'm beginning to wonder if every vote is going to be 52% from now on! Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
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10th Jun 2019 2:51 pm
Someone-Gone
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No doubt all Brexiteers.
10th Jun 2019 3:07 pm
RRSTDV8
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Nah, the oldies that voted Brexit would obviously want to keep their freebie TV...it's what we fought the war for, after all! Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
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10th Jun 2019 4:07 pm
Pelyma
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Well I'm binning my TV now I'm going to have to pay, alternatively I'm going to move another old biddy in with my MIL that qualifies for Pension credit DS3 TDV6 HSE - Silver with Alpaca (old one) Gone
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10th Jun 2019 4:57 pm
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I remember my late Grandma asking TPTB to not give her the winter fuel allowance as she didn't need the help, thanks very much. Tough - you qualify so you get it. Seems that some need help, some don't so just help those that need help. Ah, but that means...means testing (shock horror!) and for some reason that is frowned upon. Cue the calls of "I've paid my dues so I want what's coming!" Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
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10th Jun 2019 6:05 pm
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Never understood why the TV licence or heating allowance should be free to all without means testing.New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!)
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10th Jun 2019 6:22 pm
Someone-Gone
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I agree, but maybe the ceiling upon which you have to pay the Tv licence should be annual income of above £75k, that sound reasonable.
10th Jun 2019 6:29 pm
LT
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There was an argument years ago that the cost of the administration to do the means testing was so expensive it all but negated the savings it would make.
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10th Jun 2019 6:53 pm
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To all those that think means testing is a good thing, there are serious downsides too:
I know it’s the Grauniad (and all the right wingers will judge it before they read it ) but it’s still worth looking at 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
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10th Jun 2019 7:09 pm
LT
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Many of my clients donate both their Winter Fuel Payments and the cost of BBC licence fee to charities.
I believe the practise is quite widespread. For example:
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10th Jun 2019 7:21 pm
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I personally think anybody who has fought or served in the armed services should get a TV licence gratis in old age. The way we currently treat our service personnel in later life is a disgrace.Mods:
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BBC should be scrapped 
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