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AndrewS
Tarquin of the Desert
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DiscoDunc wrote:I guess you have to winch slower wioth plasma then and give the winch time to cool.
And unwind the rope off the drum. We did this Morocco as a 'just in case'.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/madelynhardma...744071138/ In the Beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
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 11th Mar 2008 7:47 pm |
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Slimer
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Member Since: 06 Jan 2005
Location: Last Exit to Nowhere
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Spool synthetic ropes out after winching (and during the tea/beer break on a long session) so they don't melt and don't act as insulation whilst the winch cools down The End
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| 11th Mar 2008 7:48 pm |
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Non Stick Nick
Member Since: 02 Oct 2005
Location: Reading, Berkshire
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I am curious about the heat build up on an electric winch.
I know that numerous models have the brake in the middle of the drum.
Several manufacturers advise against prolonged periods of “winching out†because this will understandably generate heat in the drum.
Are we saying here that prolonged winching in will produce enough heat from the electric motor to heat the drum enough to melt the plasma?
Also, bearing in mind Andrews comments that plasma + electric winch is fine on 110’s yet heat is an issue for a D3, does this not pose the question that the winch is being asked to do too much and that alternative rigging or a bigger winch is needed?
I must admit that I have done a fair bit of winching over the years yet head build up on the D3 (or any vehicle to which the winch has been fitted) with a X9+ & dynema has never been an issue.
In the general debate though, it’s plasma every time for me!
Regards to all.
Non Stick I am a hob nobber.
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| 12th Mar 2008 10:20 am |
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AndrewS
Tarquin of the Desert
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Non Stick Nick wrote:
Are we saying here that prolonged winching in will produce enough heat from the electric motor to heat the drum enough to melt the plasma?
Also, bearing in mind Andrews comments that plasma + electric winch is fine on 110’s yet heat is an issue for a D3, does this not pose the question that the winch is being asked to do too much and that alternative rigging or a bigger winch is needed?
Yep and it does not have to be prolonged  The Warn xp 9.5 winch which is standard LR spec for a D3 IMO is not up to the job. I had plasma on my D3 but have gone back to steel. A bigger winch or hydraulic is the way to go  In the Beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
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| 12th Mar 2008 12:06 pm |
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Non Stick Nick
Member Since: 02 Oct 2005
Location: Reading, Berkshire
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Bigger it is then. Don't want to start another thread but don't rate hydraulics unless we are talking commercial models.
Ncik I am a hob nobber.
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| 12th Mar 2008 12:18 pm |
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Ken
Member Since: 20 Feb 2006
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Ryder 12000lb fooking great
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| 12th Mar 2008 2:25 pm |
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10forcash
Member Since: 09 Jun 2005
Location: Ubique
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Yep, agree with that Ken - well I would, wouldn't I? 
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| 12th Mar 2008 2:40 pm |
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christyler
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
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Slimer wrote:So why have you got a roller fairlead with a synthetic rope Dunc? 
Good Point, Rollers are the quickest way to damage the plasma line. If pulling slightly sideways the plasma line will get trapped in the edge of the rollers and start tearing, this will cause damage and subsequent failure.
Dunc,
Change them rollers !! CLUB "Ah Shor it'll be grand"
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| 12th Mar 2008 3:11 pm |
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DiscoDunc
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Thanks, I'll change the weekend Duncan
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| 12th Mar 2008 8:18 pm |
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simon
Member Since: 11 Jan 2005
Location: Shropshire
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DiscoDunc wrote:Thanks, I'll change the weekend
Wow ! With a power like that, can you play the lottery for me
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| 12th Mar 2008 8:20 pm |
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10forcash
Member Since: 09 Jun 2005
Location: Ubique
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simon wrote:DiscoDunc wrote:Thanks, I'll change the weekend
Wow ! With a power like that, can you play the lottery for me
Think he meant his undercrackers
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| 12th Mar 2008 8:26 pm |
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simon
Member Since: 11 Jan 2005
Location: Shropshire
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10forcash wrote:Think he meant his undercrackers
Are they made of plasma too then 
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| 12th Mar 2008 8:30 pm |
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10forcash
Member Since: 09 Jun 2005
Location: Ubique
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I have no idea or wish to find out
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| 12th Mar 2008 8:44 pm |
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