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Jack Rawly
Member Since: 06 Sep 2015
Location: Liverpool
Posts: 22
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Britpart, OEM, Genuine opinions! |
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Evening All,
Many moons ago when I first got into land rovers I was put off massively by fellow owners saying Britpart quality was quite bad and should avoid at all costs. therefore always been advised to insist on genuine or at the very least OEM.
Over the years and thanks to my job as a fitter, I've gone away from genuine with the mind frame that for the sake of a 'land rover' stamp on the box, its still a quality product being fitted if it is to OEM Spec or made from a reputable manufacturer.
Recently however, I know of more and more people going to Britpart and praising there products. they also seem to be growing bigger and bigger offering more parts and solutions to common problems and surely if they where that bad, would have gone bust years ago.
So my question is, what would you go for and why? is my view of Britpart outdated and unjust?
Cheers,
Jack
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28th Sep 2021 11:59 am |
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nigethecat
Member Since: 11 Sep 2016
Location: Marnoch
Posts: 4142
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A lot of it depends on which parts you want to fit... for brakes as an example there is lots of choice and some manufactures make (IMHO) better products than LR or OEM... other things like a lower steering column then only fit genuine LR as it's the only one that works properly...
With trim parts or non service items then I only fit LR, others will think differently. Some Britpart stuff is ok... other bits I simply wouldn't fit to a Disco... I want to see the sweets before I get into your windowless van... I'm not stupid!
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28th Sep 2021 12:07 pm |
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Kelvo
Member Since: 07 Aug 2015
Location: Perth WA
Posts: 264
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Britpart are a supplier. They can supply cheap and nasty pattern parts, OEM parts, and even genuine LR parts. Some online retailers are better than others at actually advertising what quality the part is.
The same applies to Allmakes and Bearmach as well. MY14 TDV6
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28th Sep 2021 12:50 pm |
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Disco_Mikey
Member Since: 29 May 2007
Location: Dundee, Scotland
Posts: 20727
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In most cases, OEM is what we use on a daily basis
When it comes to labour intensive jobs, we tend to stick to genuine LR, as the 2yr warranty covers parts AND labour
But there are cases where there is a better option than the Genuine LR offering (Meyle HD, for example)
And in some cases, the cheap Britpart/Bearmach offerings function just as well as the genuine stuff
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28th Sep 2021 2:53 pm |
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lynalldiscovery
Member Since: 22 Dec 2009
Location: Maidstone
Posts: 7274
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With britfart, if you add the letter G to the end of the item number, you get a decent item, there is no question some of their stuff is utter dog shti! I have merrily used their hydraulic brake stuff for years.
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28th Sep 2021 7:40 pm |
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leojod
Member Since: 19 Jul 2017
Location: London
Posts: 37
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To me, britpart is fine for non-critical parts.
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29th Sep 2021 7:41 am |
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Discoveringcomfort
Member Since: 16 Sep 2015
Location: Berkshire
Posts: 637
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I used a Britpart plastic water manifold on the D3 V8, it leaked from the off so I had to use part of the original LR manifold and the Britpart one bodged as they aren't built to the same tolerance. Six months later the Britpart bit of the manifold became porous and had to be replaced. The LR manaifold had lasted 110,000 miles. Series 1 V8
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29th Sep 2021 9:35 am |
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Jack Rawly
Member Since: 06 Sep 2015
Location: Liverpool
Posts: 22
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Some interesting opinions and point made, thank you for your input.
I’m a mechanical maintenance engineer by trade and have worked for a few company’s in small and big factories. It’s amazing that some company’s will only go to the machine manufacturer for parts while others seek out the cheapest alternative.
In my experience the biggest difference is normally tolerance closely followed by materials used.
I think I will continue to stick with OEM standard parts, genuine is nice but the cost in some cases is more than double and when I’ve held parts side by side it’s incredibly hard to see where the added cost is.
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29th Sep 2021 12:29 pm |
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N5Fav
Member Since: 28 Jan 2021
Location: LEICESTER
Posts: 134
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Of course some aftermarket suppliers actually supply the vehicle manufacturers, for example most French car manufacturers use Valeo clutches, so you can by a Valeo clutch and be fitting the same part as a Peugeot boxed item at a lower price.
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29th Sep 2021 12:58 pm |
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leeds
Member Since: 30 Aug 2010
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 4312
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LR genuine, OEM or Britpart? A question often asked
What I say is make your parts manager at your local independent a good friend of yours and ask him.
A private individual might need to do a job once every few years whilst a good local independent will be doing it monthly or even weekly. They will not want to use a substandard part so that they will have to redo the job a few months later.
Britpart to the best of knowledge do not manufacture any items they sell and use a wide variety of manufacturers.
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5th Oct 2021 9:15 pm |
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Duc750
Member Since: 07 Aug 2017
Location: northampton
Posts: 305
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Well the first thing is OEM has absolutely zero meaning - all it means is they are an original equipment manufacturer of something somewhere in a supply chain - it doesn't even have to be the JLR supply chain. It certainly doesn't have to mean they made the original part or to the original standard or in the same place. In fact its all a load of old codswallop!
Occasionally you can get back via a bit of detective work to who made the original bits and if you know the right people you can find out what standards they were made to and if the part on the market now with the manufacturers brand on it meets (or often exceeds) that standard.
If you can't do that (and its bloody hard to do) then you have to rely on knowledge generally from Indies or others as to what works. Decent Factors like Advanced will have a sensible conversation on what they think are the better options as its not in their interest to deal with returns and unhappy customers.
You also have to factor in what goes into the part and where its used. The example of the water manifold on the V8 is a good one. Its a complex moulding that is sold in low volume. requires good quality raw material and takes a long time to tool up and tool change when manufacturing.
If its cheap something has to have given in its manufacturing - either raw material or tooling as the supply chain costs won't have much left in them. Its a critical part, thats complex why would you expect a cheap option to be a good one ?
Wheel bearings are another one - complex part in a
By the way Britpart as a business can now claim to be an OEM as they are part of the JLR supply chain these days they just chose not to as they are mainly a factor rather than a manufacturer.
So long story short OEM means nothing at all. Britpart probably has more chance of being good than bad but the normal standard applies - "if you pay peanuts you get monkeys" 05 D3 V8 HSE, LR Passion tree bars, wildbear compressor guard, LRP switch panel, ARB rear locker + compressor, Trigger 6 shooter electrical system
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