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stevo
 


Member Since: 25 Apr 2006
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Australia 2009 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 SE Auto Alaska WhiteDiscovery 4
Centre diff lock

Hi Guys,
can anyone tell me whether my D3 Sept 2005 SE, has a centre diff lock. as a billboard installer, i attemped to climb a 4 foot embankment in Rock Climb mode only to find that as the front wheels reached the top and moved forward from the edge the rear wheels just spun. I took a charge at the embankment and a susequent distruction of my tow hook cover to get it up there. perhaps i was in the wrong mode for this.

stephen
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phips
 


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There is another topic about this here:

http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4634&highlight=

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Post #6107630th May 2006 8:14 am
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stevo
 


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Yes but this isn't this talking about the rear diif lock. I thought that the disco had a automatic centre diff lock
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Post #6107930th May 2006 8:29 am
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Pelyma
  


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It does have a centre diff lock that locks up almost straight away in Rock crawl. Obviously this only equalises power between front and rear axels. The rear locker is optional, I'm not sure if you hace the 4x4 info screen (I presume not) but this shows you the diff lock operating.
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stevo
 


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Thanks for that...yes the SE doesn't have the screen but i will test the rock crawl and see if anything lights up on the dash.
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If you don't have the nav screen then you won't see any lights or indicators appearing on the dash for centre or rear diff lock(optional) engaging.

You have to trust they are working.

Chris
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stevo
 


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Thanks Chris,
bye the way , are Your Coopers 18 " ?

Stephen
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Post #6108630th May 2006 8:55 am
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Smarticus
 


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Stevo, yes there is a centre diff and combined with ETC (electronic traction control) should should have done the job for you. When both front tyres loose all traction the rear wheels would receive the power and push you over. It sounds as if the slope caused your rear wheels to have no grip at the crucial time though. And it also sounds as if you found the missing ingredient - a bit more momentum - to clear the lip. Others might suggest turning off the electronic trickery for a minute to see whether some old fashioned tyre scrabberling may have doe the job (but I would be too worried about the risk of mechanical failure to try that).
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simon
  


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Not sure why your afraid of mechanical failure if you turn off DSC. This will have no effect on TR, ETC, ABS, HDC etc etc.

Mud and Ruts mode is more than adequate for most terrains. Rock crawl is definitely the wrong mode to be climbing banks in. For one it reduces throttle response in order to smooth out your using the go pedal - thus allowing more control over obstacles.

Also locks your diffs.

Turning off DSC will avoid the system reducing power if the wheels start to slip and it 'thinks' your going to slide. Usually just when you need the power too.

On the LRE courses DSC is turned off to do as you say - use old fashioned tyre scrabbling to assist your climb.

You need to determine whether you need to have DSC on depending on what the ground is like and if you think you need power available all the time. Practice.

In mud and ruts the centre diff will be half closed to allow instant locking should the system 'think' it requires it.

The best thing you could do is find some rough terrain, as varied as possible, and try each TR mode and feel the differences.

Tyres of course will make a big difference when the ground is slippery.

The bank your were climbing probably would have been a piece of cake in General, Mud & Ruts or Sand mode. All these modes either retain or increase throttle response.

hope this helps

-s
  
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Don't forget when you turn DSC off it isn't really off just much less sensitive so you can push a lot harder before it cuts in. It is possible to get the DSC to cut in when you've turned it off Whistle I don't recommend trying it though unless you're wearing brown trousers Wink
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