Member Since: 16 Dec 2017
Location: Tilarán
Posts: 66
Cranks, Non starter, no errors 3.0 TDV6 (Issue Found)
Have searched here high and low..
on tuesday this 2015 3.0 was towed in.
The car had stalled Monday night while driving
Amongst others, there was a transfer box and gearbox communication error which I managed to clear and it never came back
NO engine PCM errors.
while cranking at 13.2 battery V, 220 rpm I get 430 bar fuel pressure which will drop to 170-250 bar after the starter motor turns off. All this thanks to GAP.
Says the boss well we got no pulse on the injector then.
yes I do.
here is a screenshot of injector nº4
We measured low pressure it is 0.5 as it should be
All ideas welcomeFixing LR problems very far from Solihull.
That's why my newest car is a 1999 Disco 2 V8 with 285.000 miles
The problem is the missing documentation, not the LR
2nd Aug 2019 8:18 pm
annette
Member Since: 16 Dec 2017
Location: Tilarán
Posts: 66
A Warning to all who just rely on the garage... sad story
after trying various things I said.. please look what is coming from the exhaust when I try to start.
Nothing says Rafa the boss
How do you mean there must be at lest air or is the DPF blocked?
OK I'll check the other he says, will block this one with white paper to see.
Nothing... no pressure.
So he opens the oil cap ( I had said that before but i am the electrician...) and there comes a BIG cloud of oil fumes... and the car starts ..
in short no compression engine pretty dead until further investigation.
What happened.
The other day when checking all my doens of unconfirmed inputs I had ruled out all silly or intelligent non start parameters..
I had come across a calculated value of 3.9 litres of oil
WHAT
yes you read this right. So I look in the fantastic Italian documentation provided 2 years ago by an angel here..
Well there were 2 llitres missing , it should be 5.9 or 6.7 depending whch quantity it reads.
So we drained it and including the filter there were a bit lesss than 3.5 litres of very dark horribly burnt oil in the bottle we collected, that includes the filter dribblings.
sure we wfilled in 6 litres of nice fresh tropical Valvoline 5W40 but it was obviously too late.
Here is a picture of the filter
Which idiot who should never have been near an engineering department at LR decided to do away with the filler gauge??????) '
Now you will say some idiot changed the oil, the owner didn't even know how to check it
No it was LR Jaguar Motores Satanicos, the official dealer in San José.
The guy showed us the invoice.
Morale:
Do your own oil change with quality oil, whatever is the best in your country
Buy a decent filter.
And check.
Check again.
If you don't trust the instrument ( I wouldn't, because I know how it lies about the temperature) use your IIDtool or whatever you have.
and put a reminder on you phone.
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That's why my newest car is a 1999 Disco 2 V8 with 285.000 miles
The problem is the missing documentation, not the LR
3rd Aug 2019 4:24 pm
Moo D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: Wiltshire
Posts: 13863
Sadly there are too many rip off and incompetent garages out there. Luckily I have an excellent one who knows their stuff. New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!)
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control
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3rd Aug 2019 4:54 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
Member Since: 11 May 2006
Location: Off again! :-)
Posts: 72768
Oh for a simple dipstick. But that won’t help stealers, wherever they are, rip peeps off or keep LR Parts in the manner they are accustomed to.
Cynical, moi? You betcha.
3rd Aug 2019 4:56 pm
timmyt79
Member Since: 18 Oct 2016
Location: Pemrokeshire
Posts: 585
Colleague of mine is going through something similar with BMW at the moment.....camchain snapped on his 4 series bmw..50k miles full bmw history etc JUST out of warranty...finally had a NEW engine fitted as good will from bmw..he paid the labour at £1200....140 miles later Engine started making noise,pulled over,recovery truck back to bmw where it was left for them to deal with..few days later message informing of 'catastrophic' engine failiure and courtesy car waiting and yep you guessed it.....no oil in engine!!! Idiots who fitted it obviously did not check that oil had actually been put in it and just assumed dash reading was correct (it said level was fine)....All this could have been prevented with a simple dip stick and basic mechanical checks..beggars belief really.
3rd Aug 2019 6:00 pm
annette
Member Since: 16 Dec 2017
Location: Tilarán
Posts: 66
Moo wrote:
Sadly there are too many rip off and incompetent garages out there. Luckily I have an excellent one who knows their stuff.
This was the main stealership here in CR!
Beware....Fixing LR problems very far from Solihull.
That's why my newest car is a 1999 Disco 2 V8 with 285.000 miles
The problem is the missing documentation, not the LR
3rd Aug 2019 8:44 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
Member Since: 11 May 2006
Location: Off again! :-)
Posts: 72768
We don’t call them “stealers” for nothing.
3rd Aug 2019 9:32 pm
annette
Member Since: 16 Dec 2017
Location: Tilarán
Posts: 66
timmyt79 wrote:
Colleague of mine is going through something similar with BMW at the moment.....camchain snapped on his 4 series bmw..50k miles full bmw history etc JUST out of warranty...finally had a NEW engine fitted as good will from bmw..he paid the labour at £1200....140 miles later Engine started making noise,pulled over,recovery truck back to bmw where it was left for them to deal with..few days later message informing of 'catastrophic' engine failiure and courtesy car waiting and yep you guessed it.....no oil in engine!!! Idiots who fitted it obviously did not check that oil had actually been put in it and just assumed dash reading was correct (it said level was fine)....All this could have been prevented with a simple dip stick and basic mechanical checks..beggars belief really.
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Did your colleague own the car for long? I mean did he actually see any work done or did he just get the invoices from the last owner?
I have seen incredible things.. but that the stealers garage doesn't even check if there's oil at any level really beats it.
I would never buy a car without a dipstick but then I am just a humble technician who couldn't afford one in the first place.
When I graduated from open university in electrical engineering I was planning to make a proper career and applied for a job in Germany. I thought now I can put all the stupid things right that have annoyed me for years on the workfloor
I learned quickly.
1 they don't really want women in these jobs
2 the pecking order is more important than technical improvement
3 saving a deutchmark is even more important, even if the consequence is less reliability
4 they couldn't care less whether a bolt is reachable or not.
I had lots of applause from the workshop but was hitting a wall against the hierarchy
5 as long as it 'looks modern' it will be implemented, whether it makes sense or not.
That is why I still repair cars.
Must say I stick to improving the factory supplied bugs.
Apart from repairing the expert's electronic sins,my current pet project is to put the temperature gauges rightFixing LR problems very far from Solihull.
That's why my newest car is a 1999 Disco 2 V8 with 285.000 miles
The problem is the missing documentation, not the LR
4th Aug 2019 2:48 pm
landy0512
Member Since: 13 Nov 2019
Location: gauteng
Posts: 5
cranks but non start
have exactly same symptoms
car cranks but non start
fuel till injectors but injectors not opening/pulsing
check oil level
check timing on both belts with special tools
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idiot who should never have been near an engineering department at LR decided to do away with the filler gauge??????) '
But that won’t help stealers, wherever they are, rip peeps off or keep LR Parts in the manner they are accustomed to.
