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Itsneverover
 


Member Since: 22 Apr 2020
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Crash Mode/Comms Fail

Some advice would be very helpful!

I have a recurring issue with my Discovery 3 (57 plate). It will put itself into 'crash mode' in different circumstances, driving or stationary. Doors lock/unlock, 'System Fault: Vehicle Shutting Down' on radio, Nav system shuts down, hazards flash... The engine will still run fine but when the ignition is turned off, it will not restart. When the issue occurs it needs to have all faults reset before it will run again.

I don't think the issue is caused by water ingress as i've checked most likely spots mentioned by the forums. There's no sunroof. I had the E Brake reconditioned after it was stuck on shortly before the issue started but not sure if that would play a factor.

I've read and tried a few different things from the forum and i'm about ready to give up! I have limited electrical confidence other than unplugging and cleaning connections!

If anyone has any 'common fault' suggestions that may solve the issue then please let me know. Likewise if you think it's time to put my hand in my pocket to replace something.

Thanks to all who post advice/support, the forum is great!

Last fault read and reset before the issue reappeared:

L319 - Discovery 3 2008
Vehicle scanned on 12-05-2020 13:22
Using IIDTool BT V3.0 B2634

Audio System

U0010-87 (28 ) Medium speed CAN communication bus - Bus signal/message failure - missing a message
( on 11-05-2020 15:33:49 at 185568 km )

U2003-86 (28 ) Fibre optic communication bus - Bus signal/message failure - signal is invalid
( on 11-05-2020 15:33:49 at 185568 km )

Auxilary Heater

U3000-55 (2F ) Control module - System programming failure - is not configured
Body Control

B1B01-87 (6C ) Key transponder - Bus signal/message failure - missing a message
( on 03-04-2020 18:45:31 at 185560 km )

B1B70-81 (28 ) Local interconnection network bus circuit 2 - Bus signal/message failure - invalid serial data received
( on 15-01-2020 22:02:36 at 185560 km )

U0155-87 (28 ) Lost communication with instrument cluster control module - Bus signal/message failure - missing a message
( on 11-05-2020 15:33:49 at 185560 km )

U0300-55 (6C ) Internal control module software incompatibility - System programming failure - is not configured
( on 11-05-2020 15:33:49 at 185560 km )

U2001-68 (68 ) Reduced system function - Algorithm based failure - event information
( on 11-05-2020 15:35:31 at 185560 km )
Engine TDV6

P132B-22 (2F ) Turbo/supercharger boost control A performance - General signal failure - signal amplitude>maximum

Instrument Pack

U0010-88 (28 ) Medium speed CAN communication bus - Bus signal/message failure - bus is off

U0132-87 (28 ) Lost communication with ride level control module - Bus signal/message failure - missing a message

U0159-87 (2C ) Lost communication with parking assist control module - Bus signal/message failure - missing a message

U0184-87 (28 ) Lost communication with audio unit - Bus signal/message failure - missing a message

B1A00-46 (68 ) Control module - System internal failure - calibration/parameter memory failure

B1A87-68 (28 ) Battery disconnection/electronic control unit reset - Algorithm based failure - event information

Parking Aid

U0155-87 (28 ) Lost communication with instrument cluster control module - Bus signal/message failure - missing a message

U0140-87 (28 ) Lost communication with body control module - Bus signal/message failure - missing a message

U0300-55 (28 ) Internal control module software incompatibility - System programming failure - is not configured

Parking Brake

U0122-87 (A8 ) Lost communication with vehicle dynamics control module - Bus signal/message failure - missing a message
( on 31-03-2020 00:18:40 at 185568 km )

C1A00-16 (A8 ) Control module - General electrical failure - circuit voltage below threshold
( on 31-03-2020 00:18:37 at 185568 km )
Steering Angle

U0122-87 (28 ) Lost communication with vehicle dynamics control module - Bus signal/message failure - missing a message
( on 11-05-2020 15:40:48 at 185568 km )

U0300-55 (28 ) Internal control module software incompatibility - System programming failure - is not configured
( on 27-01-2022 09:20:18 at 185568 km )
Transfer Case

U0155-87 (28 ) Lost communication with instrument cluster control module - Bus signal/message failure - missing a message
( on 11-05-2020 15:40:44 at 185568 km )

Transmission

U0155-87 (6D ) Lost communication with instrument cluster control module - Bus signal/message failure - missing a message
( on 11-05-2020 15:40:40 at 185568 km )

Ventilation

B1B74-00 (28 ) Front foot-defrost mode stepper actuator
( on 31-03-2020 00:18:38 at 185568 km )

B1B75-00 (28 ) Front foot-face mode stepper actuator
( on 31-03-2020 00:18:38 at 185568 km )

B1B76-00 (68 ) Front left air blend stepper actuator
( on 31-03-2020 00:18:38 at 185568 km )

B1B77-00 (68 ) Front right air blend stepper actuator
( on 31-03-2020 00:18:37 at 185568 km )

Thanks in advance.
  
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Pete K
 


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England 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Rimini RedDiscovery 3

Has it got a denso alternator ?

Looks like a medium speed can bus fault.

Have you tried replacing the airbag control unit
  
Post #21519246th Jun 2020 2:01 pm
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Itsneverover
 


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Hi Pete,

I haven't changed the Alternator so would have to check.

At the moment I haven't attempted to replace anything as I wanted to eliminate anything obvious.

I'll admit I'm out of my depth with all the electrics on the Disco as you can't (always) fix them with a hammer!
  
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aja4x4
 


Member Since: 14 Apr 2019
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United Kingdom 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Auto Zambezi SilverDiscovery 3

Just check under the carpet on the passengers side and make sure it isnt wet. I know you dont have a sunroof but you can get water coming in through the heater intake. You could also check by pulling the pollen filter out behind the lower glove box. Its easy to check even if its just to rule it out.
  
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wiggs
 


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Check the connector/ wiring under NSR wheel arch .. there’s a connector behind a flap

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Globetrotter448
 


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Australia 2007 Discovery 3 4.0 V6 Petrol SE Auto Java BlackDiscovery 3

With a multi meter check the battery voltage with car turned off. Start car and check voltage again. The first step will tell whether battery is any good, the second will tell whether the alternator is working correctly. Battery normally will sit at around 12.8 volts after startup it should go to 14+ volts. Dirty battery terminals and bad earth connection will also give problems.
Most of the "U" are information only but can help with fault finding.
  
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M3bobby
 


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Here’s another quick thing to try. Smack the instrument cluster on the top next time it does it. The clusters have a known issue with dry joints on one of the chips. If you search this and the RRS forum you will find dozens of similar faults relating to the cluster.
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Post #21525329th Jun 2020 2:44 pm
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Itsneverover
 


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Thanks for all the suggestions, just what I was after!

Now the weather's a bit better I'll give these a try and post results.
  
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Itsneverover
 


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So in response to the suggestions:

I looked through the paperwork and cant see that the alternator was changed.

No signs of wet floors and the pollen filter showed no sign of having been water damaged.

Battery was 28.4V before start and charging fine, didn't get a chance to check the earth connections.

Connectors behind NSR wheel seemed to do something. WAS working before battery disconnected. Cleaned the plugs as best I could with contact cleaner but couldn't disconnect them. When I reconnected the battery it wouldn't start, back in crash mode. Disconnect, clean battery terminals and NSR connectors again and it started.

As the issue has been so intermittent I'm not sure its fixed.

If I get the problem again then what would be my next step?

Thanks again
  
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aja4x4
 


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28.4v i hope thats a typo
  
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Itsneverover
 


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Haha yes, it read 12.4V.
  
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Globetrotter448
 


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Points towards those connectors. Need to separate and clean them.
  
Post #215381414th Jun 2020 12:49 am
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Itsneverover
 


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Do they just pull apart? I was a little worried to use too much force and couldn't see how they would release.
  
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Globetrotter448
 


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Most LR connectors have a locking clip the you press down and then pull connector apart
  
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Pedromidus
 


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Update?

Itsneverover wrote:
So in response to the suggestions:

I looked through the paperwork and cant see that the alternator was changed.

No signs of wet floors and the pollen filter showed no sign of having been water damaged.

Battery was 28.4V before start and charging fine, didn't get a chance to check the earth connections.

Connectors behind NSR wheel seemed to do something. WAS working before battery disconnected. Cleaned the plugs as best I could with contact cleaner but couldn't disconnect them. When I reconnected the battery it wouldn't start, back in crash mode. Disconnect, clean battery terminals and NSR connectors again and it started.

As the issue has been so intermittent I'm not sure its fixed.

If I get the problem again then what would be my next step?

Thanks again


Did you get to the bottom of this problem. sounds the same as the problem I had. My problem also started after the parking brake failed and I manually reset it.
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