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thorgal
Member Since: 26 Nov 2008
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HI team
Question about a required voltage for a Disco/lr3
As i understand from a CTEK website , a model multi us 25000 produces a constant 14.4 Volts and maximum of 25 AMPS when in SUPPLY MODE.Apparently this model is still as "coming soon" item on USA base site, so as of right know I could opt. for a Midtronics PSC 550, that produces a 13.4 Volts and maximum of 55 AMPS when needed for a diagnostics and ECU reflash.This particular unit might be an overkill for regular JOE , like me ,but it is used by dealers worldwide.
IS output 13.4 enough for a LR3 or 14.4 would be better?
There is another unit on an American market CTEK 7002 with output of 14.7 Volts and only 7 AMPS.Is this sufficient for regular diagnostics with Faultmate MSV2 for prolonged periods of time of should I wait for a Multi us 25000 model, until is available on US market?
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 15th Feb 2011 11:58 pm |
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cold_n_wet
Member Since: 05 May 2009
Location: Bergen
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I have and use the 2500, I have not had problems yet flashing the Bluetooth upgrade which takes about an hour all in.
For regular charging I use the 3600 which is good enough.
Not an anwser to your question, but so experience exchange.
How long (time wise) are you doing diagnostic work ? for fault reading and clearing I have never had the Ctek on.
Glen IDTOOL PRO / Faultmate programing and BAS remaping services in Norway.
Diagnostic for most Land rover vehicles
Land Rover parts and accessories.
Stockist of RLD equipment.
www.praesto4x4.no
D4 gone, missed but replaced with a 110 Puma.
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| 16th Feb 2011 8:00 am |
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SteveNorman
Member Since: 14 Oct 2005
Location: Somerset
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We have three of the Ctek25000's here, one for regular battery charging, & the others for battery supply for reflashes & diagnostics (more than one vehicle at a time).
SDD/IDS requires a voltage of more than 12.5volts before attempting connection, when the key is on, the 25amp 14.4 volt supply of the Ctek, when cold in the winter will take a few moments to acheive this, but have had no problems & it gets used many times a day. The cost benefit of these units compared to higher output outweights having to wait a few seconds sometimes.
I have a feeling the 13.6 volt one will be struggling a bit, but would be ok if you kept it connected for a while before use, but I assume it's a lot of money to gamble on it being ok.
I would suggest a minimum of 25 amps really for diag/reflash work.
HTH
Regards
Steve
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| 16th Feb 2011 8:36 am |
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peterw
Member Since: 16 Feb 2011
Location: Wiltshire
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Hello
In supply mode the Multi XS 25000 provides 25A at constant 13.6V. 14.4V is the maximum charging voltage.
Peter
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| 16th Feb 2011 2:40 pm |
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SteveNorman
Member Since: 14 Oct 2005
Location: Somerset
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Interesting, I assumed it supplied 14.4 volts on supply, but it states 13.6...... but I have just tested the output & it supplies 14.1 all the time on supply, so perhaps the midtronics unit does the same
Regards
Steve
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| 16th Feb 2011 3:01 pm |
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BBS SPY
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Quote:SDD/IDS requires a voltage of more than 12.5volts before attempting connection,
Unless you know how to modify the files 
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| 16th Feb 2011 8:09 pm |
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SteveNorman
Member Since: 14 Oct 2005
Location: Somerset
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Why would you want to?
Regards
Steve
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| 16th Feb 2011 9:19 pm |
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wiggs
Member Since: 03 Sep 2006
Location: Manchester
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I use the ctek all the time while flashing software with the faultmate ....never let me down .
Had it connected for over 7 hours the other day while doing software upgrades with no issues .
Can always get one in the uk for you and send it across the pond  G4 Gone ...but not forgotten
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| 16th Feb 2011 11:15 pm |
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thorgal
Member Since: 26 Nov 2008
Location: on the east side
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Guys , Thank you for your responses
Wiggs always at your BEST, appreciate your offer ...fortunately good news!
I called CTEK headqartersUSA and asked their tech guy about a possibility of production for US market , a model MULTI US 25000 for 110 v with 25 AMPS output and he said , that they have been testing this particular model for a couple of months now, making sure it performs up to their expectations.It was actually tested in NJ seaport at VOLVO shipyard, when they test and reprogram all their cars arriving from Europe.Funny thing is , when i asked about a Midtronics model , he said, that it is being replaced with CTEK, as we speak with all their VOLVO dealers.
First shipment should arrive at the end of next week , so I might be one of the their very first customers to try this product on American market.
I remamber having the same conversation with the same guy , about the same product , a year a go, back then he was not aware about such a product available for a US market , yet I told him , that they would hit a big NICHE with such a device and look what happened..... here we are with a MULTI US 25000 hitting the market next week ...wonderful news...I guess, they listened to me
Now if I could only perform a rear diff.motor calibration with Faultmate, i would be a happy goose...
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| 17th Feb 2011 12:50 am |
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thorgal
Member Since: 26 Nov 2008
Location: on the east side
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Not really want to resurrect an old thread, but my question belongs here, i guess...
i just received a long time awaited ctek multi us 25000 and i have a question regarding a proper connection . The instructions are somehow misleading , so...I have a Faultmate msv2 and t want to use a ctek for diagnostics .What do you guys usually do..connect a ctek,s black to a NEGATIVE lead , then red to positive , then unit to a power outlet , click on the MODE button, choose supply, wait a while and then TURN KEY to position 2 with a Faultmate already connected??? ...or is there something , that i should do differently?
What is the correct procedure in this matter, I don,t want to fry the battery, you know...or better yet sensitive electronics 
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| 25th Mar 2011 2:48 am |
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cold_n_wet
Member Since: 05 May 2009
Location: Bergen
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I have done what you have written, without problems.
I have no (serious) faults on my D3, (did I fry the ECUs  )
No joking aside, Sounds like you have a good plan.
Glen IDTOOL PRO / Faultmate programing and BAS remaping services in Norway.
Diagnostic for most Land rover vehicles
Land Rover parts and accessories.
Stockist of RLD equipment.
www.praesto4x4.no
D4 gone, missed but replaced with a 110 Puma.
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| 25th Mar 2011 8:33 am |
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PaulP
Member Since: 04 May 2007
Location: Barcelona
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^^^^ What Glen said
That's exactly what I do and zero problems 2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Auto Buckingham Blue
2007 Golf GT DSG
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| 25th Mar 2011 9:04 am |
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thorgal
Member Since: 26 Nov 2008
Location: on the east side
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thanks guys.
One more thing though.....New unit comes only with a crocodile type connectors,although comm. for ctek on the net specifies , that every ctek product comes with a additional loop type connectors, so you can a mount them permanently on the cars battery and when need arises pair them with a special plug that is a part of a ctek charger, is this also the case , should i call the supplier or this particular unit does not come with a additional plug type connector?
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| 25th Mar 2011 10:45 am |
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PaulP
Member Since: 04 May 2007
Location: Barcelona
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No - this only applies to the smaller CTek chargers. It is a small connector with pretty thin wires - there's no way that this type of connector/cabling could handle 25A
The XS2500 comes with two chunky crocodile clips with fairly thick cables. One of the clips (positive IIRC), also has another cable going to it which is a thermocouple to shutdown the charger if things get "a bit hot". 2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Auto Buckingham Blue
2007 Golf GT DSG
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| 25th Mar 2011 12:00 pm |
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thorgal
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| 26th Mar 2011 4:15 am |
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