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Wanted to buy a TDV8 FFRR but wife said no (less practical for hounds) and way above budget for 2nd LR in family.
2nd Apr 2009 8:26 pm
discocuzzy
Member Since: 02 Feb 2008
Location: surrey
Posts: 2752
Both
Bought the 110 as i can fix it myself and not as worried about nerfing it as the D3 plus the residuals are bomb proof in comparison.
Both excellent off road and the D3 was the vehicle that got me into it
Running costs for running the 110 as an offroader are also considerably cheaper than the D3...and the D3 is in sand and i want to go back to Tunisia or morocco and have a proper play in the dunes someday.
Brake pads £8.00
Disks £12.00
ujs £10.00
Service kit including all filters, lubricants etc £40.00 and do the service yourself
Mine happily trucks along at 75mph and with a county spec with a noise killer kit, pretty comfortable...finally i think they look cool as well
Finally im a "new " Landy man of a couple of years "you cannot teach stupid people to do clever things"
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05 plate D3 HSE in Zermat- Gone
11 Plate D4 Landmark in Fuji white- Gone
08 Plate D3 Hse in Buckingham Blue- Gone
58 plate D3 HSE Silver- Gone
10 Plate D4 HSE Stornaway Grey
I can say, hand on heart, that a 90 truck cab is absolutely shyte on road. For the first time since Mrs Do$h and I met, I'm not looking forward to heading home tomorrow as 135 miles of motorway and A roads in that thing are pretty close to more than I can take.
At the beginning of the drive up on Monday I thought "Speed limiter? I'm not going anywhere near that!". 2 hours later it was " speed limiter! Get the ferk outta my way, I need this journey to be over!!!". I can also confirm that the heater in the 07 'fender has a mind of its own, blowing hot or cold as the mood takes it without changing the heater dial. And it still cooks your left leg while freezing your right one.
Oh, and if some twunt in a 3-series pulls out on you on the M25, the car has adaptive braking. You brake hard at 70 and it changes lane without moving the steering wheel, filling the space the bimmer just vacated
Mind you, we bought the 90TC for a specific purpose, and it does the job admirably.
I'm still really keen to get my hands on a 110 for a few days to see how I get on with it though I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
3rd Apr 2009 12:47 am
discocuzzy
Member Since: 02 Feb 2008
Location: surrey
Posts: 2752
The 90 you have Al is probably the worst for passenger comfort and space!"you cannot teach stupid people to do clever things"
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05 plate D3 HSE in Zermat- Gone
11 Plate D4 Landmark in Fuji white- Gone
08 Plate D3 Hse in Buckingham Blue- Gone
58 plate D3 HSE Silver- Gone
10 Plate D4 HSE Stornaway Grey
It could be worse. The standard spec doesn't have anti-roll bars so has an even choppier ride than our County spec I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
3rd Apr 2009 12:35 pm
AndrewS Tarquin of the Desert
Member Since: 06 May 2005
Location: Y...... because I can
Posts: 10438
NoDo$h wrote:
It could be worse. The standard spec doesn't have anti-roll bars so has an even choppier ride than our County spec
Not necessarily the anti roll bars are there for corner handling. Take them off and you may be supprised Oh if you do dont go round any corners
Now I will admit that I dont like the ride quality in a 90In the Beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
Living in SW England, corners (with bumps and potholes in the middle of them) feature heavily. No AR bar makes it at best bloody uncomfortable and at worse close to suicidal in a 90 I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
...and the D3 is in sand and i want to go back to Tunisia or morocco and have a proper play in the dunes someday.
Just wondered why the quote above discocuzzy ?? just decided which to take to Morocco this year ?? genuinely interested in any opinion ???RR TDV8 Vog SE, RRS G4 (Gone) D4 HSE (Gone) D3 G4 (Gone) 110 CSW TDCi XS
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3rd Apr 2009 10:17 pm
discocuzzy
Member Since: 02 Feb 2008
Location: surrey
Posts: 2752
Im no expert mate but all of us in D3s were stuck a lot in the sand..weight probably the biggest killer...the 110 that was with us seemed to fair a lot better with larger tyres....got everywhere it wanted to go where as we had to pick our lines carefully or get stuck."you cannot teach stupid people to do clever things"
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11 Plate D4 Landmark in Fuji white- Gone
08 Plate D3 Hse in Buckingham Blue- Gone
58 plate D3 HSE Silver- Gone
10 Plate D4 HSE Stornaway Grey
5th Apr 2009 9:21 pm
Jonty
Member Since: 13 Oct 2007
Location: On the beach
Posts: 417
Low profile tyres and sand don't mix because you can't air down enough. With the right tyres, the D3 is good on sand, but it does weigh a lot.....
6th Apr 2009 11:50 am
Sonic3d
Member Since: 22 Nov 2005
Location: Ross on Wye Herefordshire
Posts: 872
TJ101 wrote:
Just wondered why the quote above discocuzzy ?? just decided which to take to Morocco this year ?? genuinely interested in any opinion ???
Take your 110 and enjoy I can resist everything except TEMPTATION
Can Am Commander 1000XT
Seen the light and bought a 4Motion T5
Really in 2 minds,, Brain does say the 110 makes more sense 8)
But the G4 has a lot of plus points, better AC, more comfort and front cab space , Cruise for the trip down and up through Spain,, Auto, cause am a lazy git ! etcRR TDV8 Vog SE, RRS G4 (Gone) D4 HSE (Gone) D3 G4 (Gone) 110 CSW TDCi XS
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6th Apr 2009 6:26 pm
Discoeast
Member Since: 19 Feb 2008
Location: Boksburg
Posts: 800
In my personal experience of Defenders all kitted out, all pre 07 diesels
with power steering and air con STD, the normal short comings in in all
models excluded.
1) 90,3 door, pocket rocket in town, BUCKING BRONCO in rocky terrain, chicks
with big boobs hate it and the general ride sucks. TOO LIGHT.
2) 110,5 door, ride much better, high COG tends to lean over in corners
in town driving, more noticeable for the passengers in off roading
A good all rounder.
3) 130, 4 door, DC, with STD LDV rear bin, did not lean as much as the 110
in town driving, a very smooth ride on high way, much better ride off road
in all conditions to the others, just a little long. Which killed the turning circle
in tight off roading, bad break over angle, but a very good all rounder.
4) D3, the best of the lot IMHO, just too heavy.D3 bullbar-spots-roof rack with spots-ladder-long range tank-swing out spare wheel carrier- upgraded tow bar-dash console-internal water tank-duel awnings-drawer system & T T.
6th Apr 2009 8:34 pm
dick dastardly
Member Since: 29 May 2007
Location: wiggleigh bottom
Posts: 1112
10forcash wrote:
anyway, easily sorted by not using the brake pedal
Most efficient way of saving fuel. Hybrids,pah, who needs 'em, just disable the brakes. There's one wheel on my wagon, but i'm still rollin' along, it's the cherokee, they're after me, but I'm singing a happy song
6th Apr 2009 9:56 pm
hernan1304
Member Since: 28 Feb 2008
Location: Dubai
Posts: 490
TJ101 wrote:
Really in 2 minds,, Brain does say the 110 makes more sense 8)
But the G4 has a lot of plus points, better AC, more comfort and front cab space , Cruise for the trip down and up through Spain,, Auto, cause am a lazy git ! etc
My LR3 does fine in the sand. I suspect for such a long trip - even if you end up having to dig out once or twice - you'll be thanking yourself for bringing the D3. By the way, I've only ever gotten truly stuck (as in I needed a shovel and a tow) once.
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in sand and i want to go back to Tunisia or morocco and have a proper play in the dunes someday.
