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pgerman
Member Since: 16 Jun 2008
Location: Milton Keynes
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| Dilemma - would like your thoughts! |
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Hi all,
I currently run a Disco 3 for off-roading/shooting and a 2011 4.4 TDV8 L322 Range Rover for every day and one of them has to go as I am buying a new Defender (Yes I know I have just opened the door for ridicule!) 
The D3 is an 05 with 193k and I have had it since 2007. Over the last few years its had a full suspension rebuild, gearbox refurb less that 5k miles ago along with a new turbo two months back; and within reason anything its ever needed has been fixed/replaced so it pretty much drives like new and I service it every 6k miles. Its got full Mantec underbody protection, Prospeed roof rack, ladder and compressor guard, full two sets of spare wheels so if I split everything then I think I can recoup circa £6k when I sell everything thinking the car is around £3.5k.
The L322 is a Vogue SE and is in a different league in terms of refinement and comfort. Has 96k on the clock and pulls like train. I am wondering whether I just get shot of the Disco and relegate the L322 to off-roader/shooting car. For this I think this I'll get around £16k.
So, what would you do because I change my mind like the wind on this one!
Paul
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 18th May 2022 10:13 am |
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jimbo55
Member Since: 10 May 2022
Location: England
Posts: 37
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The cynical side of me says sell the disco and sell me the prospeed gear 😂
How seriously off road you want to go and if you’re willing to take a few scrapes and scratches on the RR? I think that is probably one of the main influencing factors along with the finances. The range rovers are great cars and on the whole seam to be a bit less troublesome than discos. Do you ever need thre 7 seats or additional space of the disco? If not then the RR is probably the safer bet
Other option is to use the new defender as it’s intended and take that off road as they are amazingly capable vehicles, but you come back to the same damage risk question again
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| 18th May 2022 11:06 am |
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NJSS
Member Since: 06 May 2009
Location: Catherington, Hampshire.
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I have a feeling that the Defender's boot, and access to it make the D3 or FFRR better for shooting.
Certainly when I'm away shooting the boot has to take my flatcoated retriever in a cage, plus shooting gear for a minimum of 2, often 3, sometimes 4 people. I can't see that working with the Defender, but very happy to be proved wrong.
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| 18th May 2022 11:21 am |
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Gareth
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Member Since: 07 Dec 2004
Location: Bramhall
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Why does getting a new Defender open you up to ridicule? They are most definitely the real deal.
Personally I’d be getting rid of the one that costs most to own. The Defender will easily replicate the Rangies ride and comfort, so for me, the RR goes. The D3 is disposable, so keep it and run it to death.
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| 18th May 2022 11:24 am |
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James W
Member Since: 27 Mar 2008
Location: Wirral, UK
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I agree - you don't need two for 'best' so I'd get the value back in the FFRR, enjoy the Defender (how often would you grab the FFRR keys versus a new Defender to play with, let's be honest) and keep the D3 as a toy, especially as you've sunk a lot of effort into it so you'll be more personally invested in it. D4 XS, gone, much loved, never forgotten
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| 18th May 2022 12:53 pm |
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grzesiul
Member Since: 11 May 2008
Location: UK
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keep both still much cheaper than "investing" in 60K Defender defo not worth that amount of cash 
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| 18th May 2022 1:15 pm |
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RogB
Member Since: 15 Jun 2018
Location: Mansfield
Posts: 1650
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+1 for getting rid of the FFRR, youll get more cash for it which can go for maintenance on your D3 which is probably more practical and less precious for off roading etc. 2011 D4 XS 305 MY12 - gone but not forgotten
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| 18th May 2022 1:36 pm |
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pgerman
Member Since: 16 Jun 2008
Location: Milton Keynes
Posts: 68
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Gareth wrote:Why does getting a new Defender open you up to ridicule? They are most definitely the real deal.
Just joking! I know how people like to take the p!55. On the Defender, I was surprised at how much of 'the real deal' they are and why I've opted for one.
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| 18th May 2022 2:32 pm |
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pgerman
Member Since: 16 Jun 2008
Location: Milton Keynes
Posts: 68
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jimbo55 wrote:The cynical side of me says sell the disco and sell me the prospeed gear 😂
How seriously off road you want to go and if you’re willing to take a few scrapes and scratches on the RR? I think that is probably one of the main influencing factors along with the finances. The range rovers are great cars and on the whole seam to be a bit less troublesome than discos. Do you ever need thre 7 seats or additional space of the disco? If not then the RR is probably the safer bet
Other option is to use the new defender as it’s intended and take that off road as they are amazingly capable vehicles, but you come back to the same damage risk question again
I'll take that as dibs if I do get rid of the Disco  but to be honest I do look at the RR and think its too nice to ruin off-road and would likely serve as a nice car from someone for years to come.
New Defender has 7 seats so thats not an issue and I only really off-road 4 to 5 times a year seriously so unless the Disco goes bang there's not a lot of things left that will need doing or at great expense! The rest is just shooting and hauling the family and dogs around when the weather is sh!te.
Taking the Defender off-road is not something I'm adverse to when needed but some of the stuff I do is damaging and therefore I'd rather not take when I have something cheaper at home. But to be honest, with all the grading of tracks that has happened over the last few years I don't think I'ld have a problem doing the lanes in a Ford Fiesta (with a body kit!).
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| 18th May 2022 2:42 pm |
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Hardware
Member Since: 28 Jun 2016
Location: Hiding under the M60
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RogB wrote:+1 for getting rid of the FFRR, you'll get more cash for it which can go for maintenance on your D3 which is probably more practical and less precious for off roading etc.
or ... cancel the Deafener order and have LOADS more money for fixing dents in the D3 and polishing the seats of the FFRR.
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| 18th May 2022 2:48 pm |
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LiftedDisco
Member Since: 10 Jun 2010
Location: Towcester
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I’m with Gareth - despite the values you’ve detailed, the D3 is just about ‘disposable’ and with limited ongoing mileage is going to cost you ongoing maintenance with less of a hit on depreciation.
Conversely, the FFRR and the new Defender will duplicate each other and the potential loss of value if you use the FF to go off-road will be eye-watering.
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| 20th May 2022 8:16 pm |
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leeds
Member Since: 30 Aug 2010
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 4312
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Well, Barbara bought a new Defender 110 and the D4 went in part ex.
New Defender is more comfortable then the D4, will motor if loud pedal depressed and tows very well.
Downside, load space is not as big as the D4 or old 110. The LR roof rack for the L663 is style over substance. Try fitting a hard shell roof tent and a 270 degree awning and you will soon see why. Off road the L663 is very capable in wide spaces however if lots of trees around etc I would rather be in my 300 TDi 110.
There is no one right answer to what vehicles to keep or sell, depends very much on personal circumstances and foreseeable needs.
Good luck with whatever you decide.
Brendan
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| 20th May 2022 10:11 pm |
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riverblanche
Member Since: 31 Aug 2010
Location: retford'ish
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Hi,
If you really can not decide, then put them Both up for sale and see which sells first 
Decision made , although I think £16k for the FF the D3 will go first 
If my choice agree with others and sell the FF it duplicates roles more than the D3 does
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| 21st May 2022 7:46 pm |
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Kummu24
Member Since: 16 Feb 2013
Location: Ayrshire
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Easy choice i think. Disco is as off road ready as you need, and better for shooting and general load lugging and you seem to have done loads of repairs that you won’t see the money back for if you sell. Why should someone else get the benefit? I’d run it till it died, take off your goodies to sell and it’ll still be worth something to someone
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| 21st May 2022 7:56 pm |
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