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Stu
Member Since: 08 Feb 2009
Location: Hampshire
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So I see, it was a box full of tubes - looked most odd! D3 HSE MY05 Auto
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 14th Oct 2009 6:49 pm |
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milbo
Member Since: 21 Sep 2009
Location: warks
Posts: 36
 
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Hi,
has anybody physically changed an auto filter if so any help appreciated,please.
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| 17th Oct 2009 10:01 pm |
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milbo
Member Since: 21 Sep 2009
Location: warks
Posts: 36
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spent a couple of hours trying to get at the 2 engine mount bolts and I just cant do it, it would be ok if they were nuts and bolts but the nuts are captive so you seem to have to come from the top and undo them but the steering column is above it. I havent tried taking the pan off and just hoping it will slip out as I didnt want to get that far and find I had to raise engine and put everything back on again. So give up and going to the dealers for them to struggle with it 
update, took to dealers booked it in, they had it from 8am I rang at 3.30 they said getting on well with it so come at 4. got there to be told they couldnt start the job as they didnt have the oil  they obviously lied when they said they were getting on well with it. going back in soon when they have the oil, all they could say was sorry and they dont know why I was told that . I am also getting a courtescy car this time.
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| 26th Oct 2009 5:05 pm |
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matt_tdv6
Member Since: 05 Feb 2009
Location: Lincolnshire
Posts: 937
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Stu,
Sorry to drag this up
How are things with the Miller Matic DM in your gearbox? I think mine would benefit a good oil change
Has anyone ever had a failure using non spec'd oil in there D3 gearbox or is it nobody dares take the risk of not using what Land Rover spec'd oil
I had a PG1 Gearbox in a Rover 220 Coupe and Rover spec'd oil but when i had a box rebuilt at S&D Transmissions in Doncaster they said just use ATF and you'll never get another problem..The box was fine and handled plenty of abuse for years after that
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| 28th Nov 2009 12:32 am |
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Stu
Member Since: 08 Feb 2009
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 2423
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I did my flush back in Sept and all has been good. Miller oils seem to be completely fine. However when I did mine I couldn't get the sump pan and filter off without damaging the bolts, and not having spares at the time I decided not to bother doing the filter. I have only just ordered the bolts from TLO as I have noticed a small return in the rev fluctuating, but I'm pretty certain that this is down to the filter and not the oil. I would definately recommend miller oils. D3 HSE MY05 Auto
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| 28th Nov 2009 8:46 am |
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matt_tdv6
Member Since: 05 Feb 2009
Location: Lincolnshire
Posts: 937
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I have gave my auto box a real good flush today and its alot smoother through the rev's and on gear changes
Drained and refilled 3 times and cleaned the filter in the parts washer
I used Exol Universal ATF to do the flushing then refilled with Land Rover Oil
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| 29th Nov 2009 1:44 am |
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PaulP
Member Since: 04 May 2007
Location: Barcelona
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Just a quick question regarding this.
How easy is it to actually get the oil into the fill hole of the auto box?
I know LR only sell this oil in 1 litre packs, but is there any special trickery needed to get the oil in or what? How did you guys do it?
Any "action shots" of you giving yours a "damn good filling"?  2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Auto Buckingham Blue
2007 Golf GT DSG
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| 2nd Mar 2010 3:26 pm |
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Stu
Member Since: 08 Feb 2009
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 2423
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Hi Paul,
It's easy if you have a pump! Basically the hole is on the side i.e. vertical and there is no space above it to allow you to tip anything in. Ideally a manual pump should be used push the oil up and in through the hole.
If you don't have one, then I suspect some tubing would work as long as you could hold the oil up by the car door. i.e. you stand next to the car, tube goes under and into the fill hole. Make sure there is no air in the tube though.
Sorry no photos of mine - too messy to be thinking of taking photos D3 HSE MY05 Auto
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| 2nd Mar 2010 3:35 pm |
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PaulP
Member Since: 04 May 2007
Location: Barcelona
Posts: 4317
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So you used a pump? Are these available anywhere (i.e. cheap) or are they special (i.e. expensive)? I've never seen one  2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Auto Buckingham Blue
2007 Golf GT DSG
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| 2nd Mar 2010 3:37 pm |
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PaulP
Member Since: 04 May 2007
Location: Barcelona
Posts: 4317
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Stu,
Is this the type of pump that would work? I've seen others that work as a large "syringe", but this one seems to have two tubes (in and out) - maybe it would be easier that refilling the syringe every litre.
http://cgi.ebay.es/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewIt...0300352094
Has anyone else done this job that can give me any pointers?
Cheers,
Paul 2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Auto Buckingham Blue
2007 Golf GT DSG
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| 2nd Mar 2010 6:12 pm |
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milbo
Member Since: 21 Sep 2009
Location: warks
Posts: 36
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I used the 1 litre plastic bottle you get with gearbox oils, it has a small tube on the end. I filled up the bottle then placed it in hot water to thin the oil. It was just a case of squeezing the bottle to get the oil in. There is room and its easy enough just takes a refills to get enough oil in. You dont need to use a pump but it is easier.
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| 2nd Mar 2010 9:15 pm |
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PaulP
Member Since: 04 May 2007
Location: Barcelona
Posts: 4317
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I had thought that it should come with a filler tube to squeeze the oil through, but didn't know.....can you confirm that the LR sourced oil comes with a tube? (or was it an aftermarket oil?)
milbo wrote:I filled up the bottle then placed it in hot water to thin the oil.
What did you fill the bottle up with? Surely it was already full with gearbox oil? 
Thanks a lot milbo 
PS. Can anyone confirm if the type of pump shown in my previous message looks about right? 2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Auto Buckingham Blue
2007 Golf GT DSG
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| 2nd Mar 2010 9:40 pm |
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milbo
Member Since: 21 Sep 2009
Location: warks
Posts: 36
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I used an old bottle I had from previous car so it was empty to start with. I bought the Miller matic oil but that didnt come with any tube if I remember correctly. Most small top up bottles of gearbox oil come with a tube as far as I know so just buy a cheap one of them and empty it out.
Theres a lot of room at the side of the gearbox to get the bottle quite high so it runs in pretty good.
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| 2nd Mar 2010 10:58 pm |
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barryp
Member Since: 24 Dec 2006
Location: Sydney
Posts: 138
 
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This is the official methodoly from LR for TDV6:
Transmission Fluid Drain and Refill (44.24.02)
WARNING: Observe due care when draining transmission fluid as the fluid can be very hot.
WARNING: Observe due care when working near a hot exhaust system.
1 . WARNING: Do not work on or under a vehicle supported only by a jack. Always support the vehicle on safety stands.
Raise and support the vehicle.
2 . Remove the transmission undershield.
Remove the 6 bolts.
3 . If installed, remove the transmission heat shield.
Remove the 4 bolts.
4 . Remove the transmission support insulator through-bolt.
Raise the transmission to gain access to the fluid drain plug.
5 . Clean the area around the transmission fluid drain and filler plugs.
6 . Place a container under the transmission.
7 . WARNING: Observe due care when draining transmission fluid as the fluid can be very hot.
WARNING: Observe due care when working near a hot exhaust system.
Remove the transmission fluid filler/level plug.
Remove and discard the sealing washer.
8 . Remove the transmission fluid drain plug.
Remove and discard the sealing washer.
Allow the fluid to drain.
9 . Install the transmission fluid drain plug and tighten to 9 Nm (7 lb.ft).
Install a new sealing washer.
10 . Install the transmission support insulator through-bolt and tighten to 175 Nm (129 lb.ft).
Lower the transmission.
11 . Add 3.5 to 4 litres of the correct transmission fluid, or until a small thread of fluid runs from the filler/level hole.
12 . Check and top-up the transmission fluid level. 2017 Range Rover Sport TDV6 L494 Fuji White
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| 2nd Mar 2010 11:10 pm |
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barryp
Member Since: 24 Dec 2006
Location: Sydney
Posts: 138
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Instructions to change filter for Auto TDV6
Fluid Pan, Gasket and Filter (44.24.04)
Removal
1 . Disconnect the battery ground cable.
For additional information, refer to : Battery, Mounting and Cables, 414-01.
2 . WARNING : Do not work on or under a vehicle supported only by a jack. Always support the vehicle on safety stands.
Raise and support the vehicle.
3 . Remove the transmission heat shield. Remove the four retaining bolts.
4 . Release the selector cable from its abutment bracket.
5 . Remove the transmission heat shield bracket. Remove the four retaining bolts.
6 . Drain the transmission fluid.
For additional information, refer to : Automatic Transmission/Tranaxle-2.7L, 307-01C.
7 . CAUTION : Protect the engine during this operation.
Raise the RH side of the engine by approximately 35 mm (1.38 in). Use a transmission jack.
Remove and discard the two retaining bolts.
8 . Remove the fluid pan, gasket and filter. Position a container to collect the fluid spillage.
Remove the 21 Torx screws.
Remove and if necessary, discard the seal.
Discard the O-ring seal.
Installation
1 . Install the fluid pan, gasket and filter. Clean the components mating faces.
Install a new O-ring seal.
Tighten the Torx screws to 8 Nm (6 lb.ft).
2 . Lower the RH side of the engine. Remove the transmission jack.
Install new engine mounting retaining bolts and tighten to 45 Nm (33 lb.ft).
3 . Install the transmission heat shield bracket. Install the four retaining bolts and tighten to 10 Nm (7 lb.ft).
4 . Install the selector cable to its abutment bracket.
5 . Install the transmission heat shield. Install the four retaining bolts and tighten to 10 Nm (7 lb.ft).
6 . Connect the battery ground cable.
For additional information, refer to : Battery, Mounting and Cables, 414-01.
7 . Refill the transmision with fluid.
For additional information, refer to : Automatic Transmission/Tranaxle-2.7L, 307-01C. 2017 Range Rover Sport TDV6 L494 Fuji White
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| 2nd Mar 2010 11:14 pm |
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