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MistaDucki
 


Member Since: 10 Sep 2017
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Disco 3 - EPB Shrieking Banshee Club!

I can safely say; I am now a fully fledged member of the EPB Shrieking Banshee club Wink

My EPB squealed and took several attempts before it would release - it was then perfectly fine, even after spending two weeks parked up with very little use whilst on holiday (digging canals). Then, one fateful (or hateful?) night, I had the squeal again - managed to make it home and applied the EPB with no issue.

Here's where the fun starts ... Censored
The next day, after doing some late night research, decided that adjusting my shoes was the way forward. As I have a sloping driveway and live half way up a hill, I thought it best to relocate the beast to a more suitable location ... Only to be greeted by the operatic screaming of my EPB module, accompanied by joyous flashing warning lights and fault warnings.

So, there was only one thing for it. I set about chocking the wheels with enough bricks to build a bungalow, jacked and supported the rear driver's side, only to find the wheel moved freely Rolling Eyes (Well, as much as possible whilst in gear)

Set about tackling the passenger side ... the brake shoes were well and truly on! Not even a fraction of movement from this one.

The solution? Crawl underneath and manually unwind the EPB Module - From my experience, if you need to do this, the best and easiest way of undertaking this is to remove the spare wheel, unbolt the EPB module bracket and flip the unit over and work on it from the spare wheel well. Have fun with the bolts, because access is a bitch and they'll be rusty as Censored!

Thankfully, this did allow the disk to turn but there was still a Censored ton of resistance. The next step was to remove the disk (again, easier said than done) After belting 7 shades out of the disk to loosen it off, I delicately inserted a long screwdriver and wrecking bar on opposing sides between the disk and hub assembly - Finally! After a good 5 minutes of wiggling, prying, grunting and expletives the disk was off ... revealing just how seized the brake shoes were.

I fitted the new brake shoes, new disks & new brake pads, adjusted shoes (an absolute doddle thanks to Bodsy's Brake Bible! Thumbs Up) and relocated to my top secret workshop aka the car park at work. Whistle

Removing the driver's side disk & shoes was an absolute breeze and revealed these shoes had also seized (thankfully in the 'off position')
(They've clearly never been serviced Rolling Eyes)

Installed the new shoes, disks & pads, adjusted shoes and with high hopes attempted to apply the park brake ... guess what? There was a whole new squeal from the EPB module! Fortunately I hadn't re-sealed the actuator (it's almost as if I knew ...) and discovered that no matter whether you were applying or disengaging the park brake, the unit would completely unwind itself and jam.

Admitting defeat, I pottered home to cry/drink/contemplate the meaning of life and research how many organs I'd have to sell in order to replace the actuator ... Anywhere Between £500-£800 for a new unit, £400-£500 for a refurbished unit ... then I struck gold! Very Happy £150 to repair/service YOUR actuator unit ... all you had to do was remove the unit with the 3 cables attached (2x brake 1x emergency release) and ship it off to them.

Naturally the next day I set about removing the EPB module & cables ... and yes, it meant having to completely dismantle the brakes/disks/shoes all over again Rolling Eyes

As with the bracket, you will find that the bolts holding the cables are completed rusted and seized, and you will inevitably end up with rounded off heads in the most inaccessible of places - I resorted to drilling out one side, and cutting the head off the other bolt from the underside. In hindsight, if this happens to you I'd suggest using a serious of different sized drill bits, an extension bar and drilling the bolts out through the wheel arch (you may have to remove the wheel) Either way, take it steady as there are plenty of pipes and cables in the way you could easily mangle.

Unfortunately, the repair of my unit cost an additional £130 to repair as the driver's side cable was Censored and the force sensor ribbon cable was also Censored - Still cheaper than any of the other options, and a fast turnaround! (Message me if you'd like the Seller's details)

Whilst waiting for my EPB module to be repaired and returned, I decided to clean up and re-spray the mounting bracket, and drill out the the fixing points - replacing them with bolts and ny-lock nuts Thumbs Up

... Continued ...

So, the moment had come - squeaky bum time!
After Installing the actuator, reassembling the shoes, disks, brakes & wheels, reconnecting the module and re-inserting Fuse 41 (not quite as good as Sum 41 Laughing) I crossed my fingers and clenched my buttocks expecting the worst...
It's alive! ... IT'S ALIVE!!! Twisted Evil

It may have taken a lot of time, energy, scraped knuckles and shaved a good few years off my life (probably from all the crap I've inhaled/ingested that fell from the underbelly of the beast) but the b Censored d beast is finally back on it's feet Java Black

Now I'm just awaiting delivery of a new tyre Whistle
I don't really fancy off-roading with a biscuit, it'll get all soggy! Laughing
 "Buy a Land Rover" they said ...
"It'll be fun!" they said. 


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Post #186870115th Oct 2017 3:26 pm
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johnlad
 


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Was it the boys in Blackburn who did the module repair?
I had them do mine and re fit and set up brakes, all in £350, I think it's a bargain
  
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MistaDucki
 


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johnlad wrote:
Was it the boys in Blackburn who did the module repair?
I had them do mine and re fit and set up brakes, all in £350, I think it's a bargain

It certainly was! They really do live up to their name of 'Top Notch Parts'
Without doubt, an absolute bargain and quality service! Thumbs Up
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"It'll be fun!" they said. 
 
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rich11235
 


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Hi can anyone give me the details of the magic boys in Blackburn? I have red and yellow EPB warning lights, park brake not functional warning. Have taken cover off actuator, wound brass rod back and forth, pulled emergency cable and relatched, not a sausage. I am guessing next step is actuator and cables out and repair, or replacement with new
  
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johnlad
 


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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Land-Rover-Disc...Swn-tZHW5D
These are the people
  
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rich11235
 


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anybody recognise this?


Ok, what's this bit for? Trying to refit the EPD actuator and cables. It came off in me hand, honest guv. Suspect its some kind of plastic moulded cable tray/bracket from the drivers side, but can't for the life of me work out where it fits
  
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MistaDucki
 


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Evening Rich!

You’re correct that it’s from the driver’s side (UK).
If you follow the cable from the actuator there should be a hole in the side of the chassis which this part fits into (round peg, round hole) close to where one of the bolts is for the EPB cable, just before it disappears behind the bodywork. It should also clip around/onto another cable/pipe.

I’ll take a picture of mine in situ in the morning (if I remember) Thumbs Up
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"It'll be fun!" they said. 
 
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Mine is in being mended, and is probably going to cost about £1,000 fitted, before I even get to the new steering rack also being fitted Big Cry
 Andy

 
 
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rich11235
 


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Hello MistaDucki, I don't supposed you managed to take that photo?
Is it close to the furthest forward of the two bolts? The hole seems oversized for the plastic boss - i was expecting a push fit (not a p*ss fit)
  
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MistaDucki
 


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It sounds as though yours fits about as well as mine! Laughing



Apologies for the sub-par photo!
Haven’t got the car jacked up and I was getting snow in many unspeakable places Shocked
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"It'll be fun!" they said. 
 
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rich11235
 


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Thanks MistaD, yep, that's the place. Annoyingly I'd tried that a couple of times and concluded it can't be that much of a sloppy fit, it must go somewhere else. apologies for making you lie down in the snow!

While I'm on, I fitted new PB shoes from Britpart, and I have these small springs left over. I don't recognise them from anywhere, maybe they are for another application of the same shoes (but that seems odd as there can't be many other than Disco and RRS that use these shoes?). Anyone else come across this? Or have I been a muppet and left something out?
  
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Wyn
 


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When i changed my park brake shoes with a kit from AF i'm sure it had a few extra springs.
I just chucked them away and it's still working 2 years later.
  
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MistaDucki
 


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I feel left out now! Laughing
I didn’t have any additional/left over springs with my EPB shoes.
Mine were from a LR parts shop on eBay Thumbs Up
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"It'll be fun!" they said. 
 
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