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Nasher
Member Since: 07 Mar 2009
Location: Clanfield, North of Pompey - UK
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I’m looking at a D4 HSE Lux on Saturday.
It looks to be in great condition and has a full Land Rover Service history.
The dealer is non-franchised.
However when I do an MOT History on it there appears to be something dodgy going on.
It has a normal 65yr plate on it, not a private plate.
Current mileage on the vehicle is showing as 46,350 miles.
This is backed up by the LR service history, which I’ve seen a copy of, the last entry was 46,110 on the 9th Oct 2019.
The MOT history is:
27/12/18 - 47,716 miles
15/10/19 - 74,386 miles
I’ve asked the dealer to explain it and he’s investigating.
I could understand it if the car was wearing a private plate and the MOT history was for the plate not the car, but it’s not.
So is there any way this could be legit?
A MOT system mistake, or If it has had a private plate on it?
I'm tempted not to even look at it.
Thanks
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 12th Dec 2019 5:24 pm |
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Dusty
Member Since: 23 Sep 2013
Location: London
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I wouldn’t touch it with a barge pole, not when there’s a cracking genuine lower mileage (slightly older) one for sale on here  Discovery 4 HSE
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| 12th Dec 2019 5:42 pm |
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J@mes
Member Since: 10 Nov 2008
Location: Bomber County
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Could have been a mistake when the MOT tester entered the numbers for the mileage.
I'd accept that for one error, but two mileage errors would have me passing on by. 2014 D4 XS
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| 12th Dec 2019 6:20 pm |
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NJSS
Member Since: 06 May 2009
Location: Catherington, Hampshire.
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I would want to see the V5, and have the contact details for the previous owner, to discuss with them, failing which I'd walk away.
You might publish details of the car here, someone might know it; likewise the dealer.
Good luck.
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| 12th Dec 2019 6:28 pm |
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Pelyma
Member Since: 06 Jan 2005
Location: Patching, Sussex
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| 12th Dec 2019 7:39 pm |
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riverblanche
Member Since: 31 Aug 2010
Location: retford'ish
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Hi,
as above ^ one typo may be but two, something does not add up 
if V5 Not available contact the dealer that did the services to try and check via that route
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| 12th Dec 2019 8:11 pm |
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highlands
Member Since: 11 Jan 2010
Location: NW Highlands
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I have bought a car, but not a very expensive one, that had 2 MoT mileage readings that were based on km readings rather than miles but registered as miles on the system. All the evidence corroborated it being the case.
The first one was a mistake and the second one was the MoT tester 'being consistent'.
Pretty sure MoT data can't be changed once it is on the system even if it is incorrect.
However, with a pricey car I'd want to do digging, and have it written down in case it caused problems when it comes to sale time again. Black 05 TDV6 HSE Auto
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| 12th Dec 2019 8:28 pm |
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raincloud
Member Since: 16 Aug 2011
Location: nottinghamshire
Posts: 136
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74386 km is 46221 miles could it have been recorded in km rather than miles?
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| 12th Dec 2019 8:48 pm |
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Weyboat
Member Since: 13 Apr 2018
Location: Weymouth
Posts: 261
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46,350 miles = 74,593 kilometres
Could be genuine.. Gone 2016 Landmark D4
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| 12th Dec 2019 8:48 pm |
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Nasher
Member Since: 07 Mar 2009
Location: Clanfield, North of Pompey - UK
Posts: 2680
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Thanks Guys.
i've had a chat with the dealer who's selling the car again this evening.
He's spoken to the owner and the explanation sort of ties in with what has been suggested on here.
He used the car purely for travelling to his house in France, and did far more miles in France than the Uk so had everything set to Kms most of the time.
He apparently never thought until I asked the question that the MOT man would read the trip meter in Kms.
So, the question is, can the driver easily change the readout to Kms?
It would appear easy for an MOT tester to just read the trip meter and not notice the Kms instead of miles.
I have now been given the VIN number and LR service history, so will be contacting the dealer who's been servicing it to see what they have to say.
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| 12th Dec 2019 9:00 pm |
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kajtzu
Member Since: 11 Aug 2017
Location: Helsinki
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Yes, it’s possible and a trivial change - anyone can do it. See this video https://youtu.be/8tgznpRoWW8
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| 12th Dec 2019 9:02 pm |
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Russell
Member Since: 24 Aug 2007
Location: Kent
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Just a thought, you are doing the donkey work now and if you buy it all well and good, until you come to sell it, then prospective buyers may not be so keen to do the leg work and may be put off MY17 D5 1st Edition Namib Orange
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| 13th Dec 2019 2:03 am |
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Nasher
Member Since: 07 Mar 2009
Location: Clanfield, North of Pompey - UK
Posts: 2680
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Russell
Don't worry, I've already mentioned that concern to the dealer, and told him that if I proceed I will not be paying the screen price for that reason. He's agreed we can discuss the price.
The way I see it, if I get 3 MOTs on it in miles, and get confirmation from LR that they read the mileage from the ECU when they serviced it, the difference it will make to the price I sell it for in 3yrs will be lass than the saving I can make now because of it.
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| 13th Dec 2019 8:11 am |
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M3bobby
Member Since: 21 May 2018
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I don’t see it as an issue for selling if you mention it in a future advert. Especially if you state the mileage next to the Km reading. 012MY RRS 5.0 Supercharged Autobiography (Current)
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| 13th Dec 2019 12:18 pm |
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ianm27
Member Since: 02 Jun 2016
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Don't know how the system works but if the next MOT guy enters a figure in miles that is less than the previously recorded miles won't that throw up a problem?? Uncle Ray's spare wheel protector
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| 13th Dec 2019 3:50 pm |
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