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Have we got a thread for that?
Belt and braces, I have glued plastic to shaft and foam to shaft. Copied this from another thread but used foam from a dewalt tstak box.
Waiting for it to dry and for me to calm down after fitting the new tailgate switch only to find it didn't work.An honorable defeat is better than a dishonorable victory.” ― Millard Fillmore
2006 Disco 3
Gas Gas 300ec / Gas Gas tx249 / Bandit 1250
XR 650r / Pajero 2.8 Lifted and Safari Snorkel-gone.
19th Jan 2019 7:44 pm
D&G
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So not great.
Glued as per pictures. It spins with joint now and doesn't move on its own.
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I then did the steering calibration. Which was easy.
Before with wheels straight. I used a string to get them in line as far as I could see.
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After calibration.
I did a reset with the IID again easy.
And here is where it goes wrong.
All faults are now clear but on the test drive within 50 metres the righthand side DSC kicks in and same faults light up on dash.
I stop and clear faults again but the same happened again.
Fault code
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There is only one fault related to steering now but what have I missed?
Edit
I have just check tyre pressures all are between 31 and 33 psi.
Fitted new brake light switch.
Changed all rear bulbs for new but not LR. I have now got LR bulbs if it is eorth trying.
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Thank you in advance.An honorable defeat is better than a dishonorable victory.” ― Millard Fillmore
2006 Disco 3
Gas Gas 300ec / Gas Gas tx249 / Bandit 1250
XR 650r / Pajero 2.8 Lifted and Safari Snorkel-gone.
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20th Jan 2019 4:02 pm
XDAndy
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It’s a copy of an LR TSB that walks through how to troubleshoot multiple DTCs.
Seems to suggest that the code you are getting is unlikely to represent a hard fault, but symptomatic of something else?
Don’t know if this will help or not, but might be worth spending a few mins reading the whole TSB.
Btw, if that’s the only error code, what have you got your IIDtool set to report? As in pending or confirmed codes etc?
Might be worth expanding its reporting to included other error types to get m9re info if nothing else is showing up?
20th Jan 2019 4:11 pm
D&G
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Cheers I will have a read. The steering sensor was spinning on the shaft so that was a fault.
There are no other faults other than.
Body Control
• B1B02-28 (2F) Low frequency coil - General signal failure - signal bias level is out of range/zero adjustment failure
( on 12-02-2018 07:03:20 at 208380 km )
• B1C57-14 (2F) Passive start ignition relay coil circuit - General electrical failure - circuit short to ground or open
( on 12-02-2018 07:01:53 at 208380 km )
Engine TDV6
• P0405-00 (2F) Exhaust gas recirculation sensor A - circuit low
• P140A-00 (2F) Exhaust gas recirculation sensor C - circuit low
Traffic Message
• B1A56-18 (2F) Antenna circuit - General electrical failure - circuit current below threshold
Which I understand not to be of concern ( but I might be wrong )
CheersAn honorable defeat is better than a dishonorable victory.” ― Millard Fillmore
2006 Disco 3
Gas Gas 300ec / Gas Gas tx249 / Bandit 1250
XR 650r / Pajero 2.8 Lifted and Safari Snorkel-gone.
20th Jan 2019 4:22 pm
D&G
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Just re read faults for clarity
VIN SALLAAA136A374474
Model L319 - Discovery 3 2006
Vehicle scanned on 20 Jan 2019 16:39:19
IIDControl 2.9.4.5 Android - IIDTool BT V3.0 B2481
Body Control
• B1B02-28 (2F) Low frequency coil - General signal failure - signal bias level is out of range/zero adjustment failure
( on 07-04-2018 13:16:44 at 208380 km )
• B1B70-01 (2E) Local interconnection network bus circuit 2 - General failure information - general electrical failure
( on 07-04-2018 13:50:32 at 208380 km )
• B1C57-14 (6C) Passive start ignition relay coil circuit - General electrical failure - circuit short to ground or open
( on 07-04-2018 13:16:33 at 208380 km )
• U0155-87 (2E) Lost communication with instrument cluster control module - Bus signal/message failure - missing a message
( on 07-04-2018 13:50:32 at 208380 km )
Cell Phone
• B1A00-47 (AF) Control module - System internal failure - watchdog/safety failure
( on 07-04-2018 13:50:32 at 208384 km )
Engine TDV6
• P0405-00 (2D) Exhaust gas recirculation sensor A - circuit low
• P140A-00 (2D) Exhaust gas recirculation sensor C - circuit low
Instrument Pack
• U0159-87 (2E) Lost communication with parking assist control module - Bus signal/message failure - missing a message
Traffic Message
• B1A56-18 (2F) Antenna circuit - General electrical failure - circuit current below threshold
Vehicle Dynamic
• C1B00-64 ( 08 ) Steering angle sensor - Algorithm based failure - signal plausibility failure
( on 07-04-2018 13:18:24 at 208384 km )An honorable defeat is better than a dishonorable victory.” ― Millard Fillmore
2006 Disco 3
Gas Gas 300ec / Gas Gas tx249 / Bandit 1250
XR 650r / Pajero 2.8 Lifted and Safari Snorkel-gone.
20th Jan 2019 4:43 pm
XDAndy
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This may explain why the error is being issued
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Not sure if that helps you track down the issue or not.
Can you measure live inputs from wheel ABS sensors, yaw/lateral acceleration sensor and steering wheel angle sensor to see they all agree that 'straight' is 'straight?
If I understand things correctly, the ABS module will cross reference the four wheel speeds and yaw/lateral acceleration sensor to determine that the car is going straight at a speed between 12.5-15.6mph.
it will then check that the steering wheel angle sensor reads 0º +/- 15º
If it fails this check twice, then it throws a 'plausibility' error.
You should be able to monitor live values for all those items via the IID tool and record/graph them and cross reference the accuracy, or even perhaps track down which of the sensors is throwing out inaccurate values?
Disclaimer : I could have completely misinterpreted what I've been reading, and the whole lot could be .
20th Jan 2019 5:53 pm
urhunden
Member Since: 15 Jan 2010
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Is there a possibility to buy a replacement "collar"
20th Jan 2019 7:14 pm
D&G
Member Since: 29 Jun 2017
Location: Charente 16480
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XDAndy wrote:
This may explain why the error is being issued
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Not sure if that helps you track down the issue or not.
Can you measure live inputs from wheel ABS sensors, yaw/lateral acceleration sensor and steering wheel angle sensor to see they all agree that 'straight' is 'straight?
If I understand things correctly, the ABS module will cross reference the four wheel speeds and yaw/lateral acceleration sensor to determine that the car is going straight at a speed between 12.5-15.6mph.
it will then check that the steering wheel angle sensor reads 0º +/- 15º
If it fails this check twice, then it throws a 'plausibility' error.
You should be able to monitor live values for all those items via the IID tool and record/graph them and cross reference the accuracy, or even perhaps track down which of the sensors is throwing out inaccurate values?
Disclaimer : I could have completely misinterpreted what I've been reading, and the whole lot could be .
Not sure how to get live values on the IID, will have a look. Are you saying it might not be the steering angle sensor?An honorable defeat is better than a dishonorable victory.” ― Millard Fillmore
2006 Disco 3
Gas Gas 300ec / Gas Gas tx249 / Bandit 1250
XR 650r / Pajero 2.8 Lifted and Safari Snorkel-gone.
20th Jan 2019 7:23 pm
D&G
Member Since: 29 Jun 2017
Location: Charente 16480
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urhunden wrote:
Is there a possibility to buy a replacement "collar"
If I need one then fine but I have glued it and it appears to turn with the steering column. Which seems to have solved other people's issue. I am guessing I must have done something wrong.
Or I have more than one problem..........mutter mutter An honorable defeat is better than a dishonorable victory.” ― Millard Fillmore
2006 Disco 3
Gas Gas 300ec / Gas Gas tx249 / Bandit 1250
XR 650r / Pajero 2.8 Lifted and Safari Snorkel-gone.
20th Jan 2019 7:28 pm
XDAndy
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D&G wrote:
Not sure how to get live values on the IID, will have a look. Are you saying it might not be the steering angle sensor?
Saying I have no real idea of what I’m talking about, as no experience in this direction, but looking at the LR stuff I have, if you are still getting that C1B0064 error, then might want to keep looking.
As for IID logging live values, I’m assuming you bluetooth one, as that’s in your signature strip.
If so, when plugged in and connected, look for the “live values” section.
Think the values you want can be found under the “vehicle dynamics” section, but you may have to hunt through the settings to find the yaw/lateral accelerometer value.
Here’s one I did of ABS sensor speed per wheel, vehicle speed, and steering angle sensor position
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So, you can do a lot with it beyond just scanning and clearing codes.
I’ve barely scratched the surface after nearly a year of having one.
Andy
20th Jan 2019 9:22 pm
D&G
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Thanks, will have a play when I get time.
It is a right PITA, we are forecast snow end of the week and was trying to get sorted before then.
Doing a search for a parts diagram at the mo.An honorable defeat is better than a dishonorable victory.” ― Millard Fillmore
2006 Disco 3
Gas Gas 300ec / Gas Gas tx249 / Bandit 1250
XR 650r / Pajero 2.8 Lifted and Safari Snorkel-gone.
20th Jan 2019 9:35 pm
XDAndy
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Parts diagram?
For what?
New.lrcat.com is probably the easiest way to find access to the LR electronic parts catalogue, but just be sure you triple check part numbers as some may have been superseded.
I tend to check on something like lrdirect or rimmerbros to see if the parts list newer parts.
20th Jan 2019 9:52 pm
D&G
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I wanted to see if the sensor came with the ring that fits to the column. That was the part that slips out of position on the column. If I can buy that bit without the whole column then I might just order the parts.An honorable defeat is better than a dishonorable victory.” ― Millard Fillmore
2006 Disco 3
Gas Gas 300ec / Gas Gas tx249 / Bandit 1250
XR 650r / Pajero 2.8 Lifted and Safari Snorkel-gone.
20th Jan 2019 9:59 pm
XDAndy
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I think this would be the page you are looking for
Looking around and about, the steering angle sensor now comes as a separate piece to the column (used to be sold together), but the ring you are interested in comes with the column, not the sensor!
Ouch
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20th Jan 2019 10:06 pm
D&G
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Yep
Looks like both rings are on the sensor, will order tomorrow.
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XR 650r / Pajero 2.8 Lifted and Safari Snorkel-gone.
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