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thomasz
 


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Fuel rail pressure

Hi!

Have look the fuel rail pressure today with IID on our D4, 2009, 2.7l, EURO 4.
Had a failure few days ago (P0087-00 and P0191-23).

I'm surprised that the pressure is so low, the workshop manual says a maximum of 1650 bar for the 2.7l engine.







Are the values from the IID still correct?

Thomas
  
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Hi !
Have you seen this video ? May be some things to check on low pressure circuit before.
Just note that Christian often refers to this forum Wink
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thomasz
 


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yes know it

Question is: are the measured pressure okay....
  
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Must be if it’s running ok, sure you aren’t getting bar and psi mixed up :whistle:out of the top of my head it’s around 6700psi..
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Those pressures are no-load, and therefore OK. If you can measure requested torque and rpm/pressure, that will give a better idea of if there is a concern or not. The DTC's indicate a lack of fuel volume which can point to a restricted filter, a restricted pre-filter, low flow from the LP pump (in-tank) or ultimately a problem with the HP pump / PCV.
  
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thomasz
 


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Those pressures are no-load, and therefore OK. If you can measure requested torque and rpm/pressure, that will give a better idea of if there is a concern or not. The DTC's indicate a lack of fuel volume which can point to a restricted filter, a restricted pre-filter, low flow from the LP pump (in-tank) or ultimately a problem with the HP pump / PCV.


Hi Flatlander,

I didn't know that the pressure in the rail also depends on the torque. Of course, the car was stationary when I measured it and only the engine was running.

I also measured the low pressure and determined the following pressures:

Engine off: 0.5 bar
Engine idle: 0.35 bar
Engine at approx. 3000rpm: 0.15 bar

I haven't measured the flow rate yet. How much should that be per minute?

Pump draws approx. 7 A

A new OEM filter (Mahle) is installed.

What do you mean by pre-filter?

Thomas
  
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