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gstuart
 


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Fuses for T max

hi

on the off chance wondering if anyone has used these please

need 2 x for the t max, think 80 amp will suffice

just wondered what ur thoughts were please , doesn’t state cable size though , will be using 16mm 110 amp

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Car-Modified-Swi...0005.m1851

or would it better to simply use one of these plse

https://www.12voltplanet.co.uk/midi-strip-link-fuse-holder.html


thks as always Thumbs Up


   
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Hi Stuart,

I am using the second type of fuseholder (midi) for my T-Max fitted with a 50A fuse:



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hi

many thks for the reply Thumbs Up

seems they are the most common one to use, it was just an idea after seeing the trip type fuse but maybe will just get the same type as you’ve also used

think i can easily buy some spare fuses as well

noticed the instructions aren’t very clear ref the T max , will get some red corrugated split sleeving for the cables , see i’ve also got to get another smaller fuse for the unit

see there is a small link wire in the kit

may i ask how did u get on with crimping the larger 16mm connections plse , did u just use a vice or the correct crimp tool please , think adding some solder to the connector wouldn’t hurt

thks again
   
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Hi,

my T-Max compressor has a max. of 45A according to the data sheet, thus my choice of a 50A fuse.
The main fuse for my power-distribution setup is a 100A midi fuse located in the engine bay.

I have a hydraulic hex crimp-tool here so making those 16mm² connections was no problem (https://www.amazon.de/Nordstrand-Hydraulische-Presszange-Quetschzange-Kabelschuhe/dp/B013B90GK0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1508851328&sr=8-1&keywords=nordstrand+crimp). If you don't have one yourself, a nearby electrician or a forum member close by might be able to help you out. Due to the high currents involved, I would refrain from using solder.



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I've got the 12v planet mega strip fuse unit on my T-maxx split charger for the last 3 years, no problems Thumbs Up
  
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In the past I've successfully crimped 16mm2 and bigger using mole grips plus a nail between crimp and grips ... And a degree of patience.
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Avalon wrote:
Hi,

my T-Max compressor has a max. of 45A according to the data sheet, thus my choice of a 50A fuse.
The main fuse for my power-distribution setup is a 100A midi fuse located in the engine bay.

I have a hydraulic hex crimp-tool here so making those 16mm² connections was no problem (https://www.amazon.de/Nordstrand-Hydraulische-Presszange-Quetschzange-Kabelschuhe/dp/B013B90GK0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1508851328&sr=8-1&keywords=nordstrand+crimp). If you don't have one yourself, a nearby electrician or a forum member close by might be able to help you out. Due to the high currents involved, I would refrain from using solder.



Regards,
Olaf


many thks for the info

after i crimp the battery lead connectors may i ask why solder shouldn’t be also put onto the fittings please, sorry for the dim question

thks again
   
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Hardware17 wrote:
In the past I've successfully crimped 16mm2 and bigger using mole grips plus a nail between crimp and grips ... And a degree of patience.


was thinking of using the vice

just found these, am terrrible for getting tools Whistle

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5-Dies-Cable-Rat...3261066276
   
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Go for the hydraulic ones. Much easier. This one is similar to mine. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tube-Terminals-...Swf-VWbn8Z
   
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gstuart wrote:


after i crimp the battery lead connectors may i ask why solder shouldn’t be also put onto the fittings please, sorry for the dim question

thks again


Generally solder will give two metal-to-metal transfers for the electrons to travel to. Proper crimped connections will give only one, resulting in less electrical resistance. Higher resistance can not only cause a voltage drop at high currents, the resulting heat buildup can even unsolder your wires in the worst case.

Needles to say, a well soldered connection is probably better than a badly crimped one.
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I used these the same as your second link, and only one of them!


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Avalon wrote:
gstuart wrote:


after i crimp the battery lead connectors may i ask why solder shouldn’t be also put onto the fittings please, sorry for the dim question

thks again


Generally solder will give two metal-to-metal transfers for the electrons to travel to. Proper crimped connections will give only one, resulting in less electrical resistance. Higher resistance can not only cause a voltage drop at high currents, the resulting heat buildup can even unsolder your wires in the worst case.

Needles to say, a well soldered connection is probably better than a badly crimped one.


many thks , have in the past after crimping a terminal to run some solder around the joint and also used some shrink tubing over the wire to protect it , just used solder on terminals to ensure they are sound

am very grateful to ur goodself and learn something new everyday Thumbs Up
   
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tayaste wrote:
Go for the hydraulic ones. Much easier. This one is similar to mine. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tube-Terminals-...Swf-VWbn8Z


dam it, Whistle have just resevered that in my list of items to buy Bow down Bow down

oooohhhh goody , something else that’s shiny to buy Rolling with laughter
   
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Iceman08 wrote:
I used these the same as your second link, and only one of them!


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many thks, definitely think that’s the item to buy , been trying to read the t max instructions, blimey need a magnifying glass to read it

will have to have another look, as i thought i saw on there 3 x fuses req , one on the green wire , then another fuse in each positive cable ,

70 amp fuse on each positive cable then a 2 amp fuse in the green wire

see the kit comes with a scotch lock type fitting for the 2 amp fuse, won’t bother using that but get a decent one

may i ask where did u pick up ur aux battery earth please , found the grommet by the servo to push the wires though firnthe battery display unit , just got to decide where to install it Whistle


thks again
   
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gstuart wrote:
Avalon wrote:
gstuart wrote:


after i crimp the battery lead connectors may i ask why solder shouldn’t be also put onto the fittings please, sorry for the dim question

thks again


Generally solder will give two metal-to-metal transfers for the electrons to travel to. Proper crimped connections will give only one, resulting in less electrical resistance. Higher resistance can not only cause a voltage drop at high currents, the resulting heat buildup can even unsolder your wires in the worst case.

Needles to say, a well soldered connection is probably better than a badly crimped one.


many thks , have in the past after crimping a terminal to run some solder around the joint and also used some shrink tubing over the wire to protect it , just used solder on terminals to ensure they are sound

am very grateful to ur goodself and learn something new everyday Thumbs Up


I crimped but using both crimp and solder should work best. Solder only on some connections used to be frowned upon as high current can heat the joint and make the solder connection weak under tension.
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