john watson
Member Since: 10 Nov 2011
Location: lanark
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To replace 5 glow plugs I paid a tad under £200. Was well chuffed after reading of the horror stories on here. Once you have defeated the idiots any job is half done. Pity there are so many idiots to defeat.
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 17th Oct 2018 8:17 pm |
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Skagg
Member Since: 15 May 2015
Location: Not where i'd like to be
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Came in at £278 for 5 here, so very happy. Now I can afford a Beanie grill  MY16 D4 Landmark SDV6 (The Ice Maiden)
Uncle Ray's spare wheel protector
MY08 D3 HSE Stornoway (Miss Moneypit) The money tree withered......
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| 18th Oct 2018 1:52 pm |
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A.J.M
Member Since: 31 Oct 2009
Location: Carluke
Posts: 2815
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Think I’ll be getting mine booked in to sort them.
Have spoke to a specialist about it but it’s sorting time for it.
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| 19th Oct 2018 11:53 am |
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Parky63
Member Since: 10 Apr 2017
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 401
 
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John and Nick,
Pleased, but envious. for both of you. AJM Disco Mikey seems to be on a roll as far as getting the plugs out. He's a site sponsor and up your way (ish).
David 2006 D3 HSE Buckingham Blue
Silicone Intercooler Pipe
MAP Sensor cleaned
N/S Drain Tube Elbow
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| 19th Oct 2018 11:41 pm |
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Mikeyb
Member Since: 08 Nov 2016
Location: Maldon, Essex
Posts: 515
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Robbie wrote: Fit new glow plugs as the engine is far more responsive and economical when working properly. Running without working plugs is like having your engine remapped for worse performance.
Am I missing something here?
Surely the only function of the glow plugs is to enable cold starting. They do not come into play once the vehicle is running so how would they affect performance etc? Not such a Disco Newbie now!
IID BT
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| 20th Oct 2018 7:37 am |
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Pete K
Member Since: 15 Jan 2016
Location: GL
Posts: 10363
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there are on while the engine is running on the tdv6. I presume when its cold still!
Think they call it after burn or something 
Can't say I notice any difference
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| 20th Oct 2018 10:23 am |
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Parky63
Member Since: 10 Apr 2017
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 401
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Mikeyb,
Check out Robbie's excellent guide https://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic130145...=Glow+plug
David 2006 D3 HSE Buckingham Blue
Silicone Intercooler Pipe
MAP Sensor cleaned
N/S Drain Tube Elbow
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| 20th Oct 2018 11:04 am |
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Mikeyb
Member Since: 08 Nov 2016
Location: Maldon, Essex
Posts: 515
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What an absolutely first class write up, I've learnt something new this evening. Apologies Robbie!
Damn, perhaps I shouldn't ignore them after all  Not such a Disco Newbie now!
IID BT
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| 20th Oct 2018 8:49 pm |
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john watson
Member Since: 10 Nov 2011
Location: lanark
Posts: 956
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Not a lot more I can add to this post only the following.
Yes starting is a lot easier and I have got to believe the battery won’t be getting the guts torn out of it by continuously cranking to get the engine running.
Don’t really notice any change in running characteristics and that after doing about 700 miles last week on our holiday to Harris!
Only other thing re removal and the plugs just came out so smoothly is that Skagg and I were using injector cleaner. Don’t know if this was a contributing factor to the ease of removal. Once you have defeated the idiots any job is half done. Pity there are so many idiots to defeat.
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| 21st Oct 2018 9:53 am |
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Parky63
Member Since: 10 Apr 2017
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 401
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John,
I've been using 2 stroke oil for over a year but didn't help much.
David 2006 D3 HSE Buckingham Blue
Silicone Intercooler Pipe
MAP Sensor cleaned
N/S Drain Tube Elbow
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| 21st Oct 2018 11:38 am |
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SteveH
Member Since: 10 Aug 2013
Location: Northampton
Posts: 80
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(just posted below on another thread but thought worth putting up here. Although some v cheap prices on this thread my comment is in relation to indies and dealers requiring disclaimers for potential 3-4k of work!)
If its of help to anyone I just had my glow plugs replaced by Midland Diesel Solutions in Hinckley - speak with Pete or Jan
After getting wild prices from LR Indies and LR themselves - all preferring to avoid the job if at all possible I found these guys. They are well versed in this job and have all eventualities covered with a worst case price (if all snap) at a fraction of what the above quote (most seem to go straight to body off / head off situation if one snaps); all done in situ
On top of this they are also straight up chaps, as luck would have it they managed to get all of mine out without snapping one so my overall price was much reduced ! Happy days - I think this kind of service deserves a plug and it will be music to peoples ears if you are currently like I was; debating the future of my D3
And by the way, what Robbie says is spot on - the glow plugs make much more of a difference than just a cold start. The drive is like a different car - acceleration, low end pick up is a marked improvement
Cheers
Steve H
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| 15th Nov 2018 1:29 pm |
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Parky63
Member Since: 10 Apr 2017
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 401
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Steve,
The body off, heads off and K's worth of bill only applies if the ends of non functioning glow plugs swell to a size that exceeds the diameter of the hole in which they reside. This means that when the plugs are extracted the swelling breaks off and falls into the cylinder. Not a good idea to have that going through the turbo 
David 2006 D3 HSE Buckingham Blue
Silicone Intercooler Pipe
MAP Sensor cleaned
N/S Drain Tube Elbow
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| 16th Nov 2018 1:47 am |
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SteveH
Member Since: 10 Aug 2013
Location: Northampton
Posts: 80
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David
From my multiple enquiries to both LR dealers and a couple of indies it seems that most jump straight to body off head off scenario as soon as a plug just snaps. Although one good indie I use would only go to this stage if the tip dropped into the chamber as you say. Most are not interested in messing around
I think it depends on experience of this procedure and the specialist kit they either have or don't have
I can say that at midland diesel they have the vibrating tool to free them if poss / then drill bits and jig to extract/pull a broken sleeve - up to 3 times / then if they still have the bottom bit stuck in they will actually push the tip into the chamber (to allow purchase on the remaining bit of sleeve / then they have cameras etc to retrieve the tip apparently without having to take head off.
Mine didn't get to that stage but I was comfortable with the price if this was needed (well, much more comfortable knowing what all the others were quoting if it got to that stage that is). Cheers
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| 19th Nov 2018 10:54 am |
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Parky63
Member Since: 10 Apr 2017
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 401
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Steve,
Looks like Midland Diesel Services should be inundated with Forum members once the temperatures start to head south.
Having thought about it, the injector hole must be larger than the glow plug one, so I can't see why the broken part can't be pulled out of that hole using a keyhole video camera down the glow plug hole.
Still, I can't get my head around the initial costings of body off/heads off. I had one very well respected LR Indy refuse point blank to even do the glow plugs.
David 2006 D3 HSE Buckingham Blue
Silicone Intercooler Pipe
MAP Sensor cleaned
N/S Drain Tube Elbow
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| 19th Nov 2018 12:57 pm |
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Unbeliever
Member Since: 28 Aug 2022
Location: South Yorkshire
Posts: 25
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Resurrecting an old post here about glow plug removal for those who don't have the ability/time to attempt the job themselves.
Having resurrected my FBH last year when I found all six of my plugs were FUBAR and then having struggled with battery issues running the FBH when we had a cold snap at the end of last year I decided enough was enough and I decided to get them done this week by DR Automotive in Stone, Staffs.
They were very accommodating and knowledgeable regarding all the issues/risks which gave me confidence in their abilities, which turned out to be very well placed as they managed to get all six out and replaced with Beru/OEM in ~ 5 hours...result! (2 snapped but were able to be drilled/threaded & pulled successfully).
Not the cheapest job to say the least at £100/hr + parts + VAT but I would say you definitely get what you pay for with these guys and I would heartily recommend them to anyone needing the job doing.
(Not sure it made a difference but for the past year I have been adding Redex Diesel to every full tank and eack week for the last 6 weeks I'd managed to soak the top of each plug with Powerfoam Deep Creep) MY06 D3 SE 2.7 V6
MY15 FL2 SE 2.2 I4
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