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Lots of good advice and food for thought here - many thanks everyone . Red Merele - out of interest, in what way is the Landmark significantly higher spec than my current HSE ?Disco 4 TDV6HSE
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31st Dec 2017 1:47 pm
Canburne
Member Since: 15 Jan 2013
Location: Devon
Posts: 2029
Long roof rails, RSE, heated steering wheel, cornering higher spec headlights with signature DRL';s, premium leather seats, 825 watt sound system, premium carpet mats, stop/start system, Euro 6 engine, 8 speed gearbox to name just a few... .
"the inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings....the inherent vice of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries" Winston Churchill
2016 D4 Landmark Club Waitomo ...or is it Club Tempest????
2015 D4 HSE Aintree Green
31st Dec 2017 1:56 pm
Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7438
@Smarticus:
If you're happy to send me your email address, I'll be able to give you access to a PDF of the original brochure and spec sheets and it'll give you chapter and verse.
The Landmark was a run out version that was a very close relative of the HSE Luxury, which was the one up from the HSE. As Canburne also says, it'll be the 8 speed auto as well, while Euro 6 compliance will give you a degree of protection against opportunistic anti-diesel tax grabs.2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: FL2 as a second car
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
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31st Dec 2017 3:14 pm
Smarticus
Member Since: 01 Jan 2005
Location: Northumberland
Posts: 655
My D4 has premium leather seats, rear heated seats, heated steering wheel, keyless entry & go, active rear diff, roof rails (don't much care for the look of full length silver rails), surround cameras, a proper gear lever (not a faffy dial ;o), winter tyres on 19" wheels (I don't like 20's), full size spare, a gutsier feel to the engine and triple sun roof. And it has Alpacca Leather interior which I much prefer over ivory. Non of the Landmarks I saw or drove felt any more premium to sit in or drive than my current vehicle. So I think I just convinced myself to stick with what I have and let nature take its course. Sorry to disappoint all those who have PM'd me enquiring about a private sale.
By the way, I was briefly tempted by a D5 HSE Lux 3.0 ex demo at Lloyds Kelso. That was £53k to change. But a test drive left me a bit underwhelmed, so again, no convincing argument for change. I have had every Disco to date (200tdi, 300tdi, Td5, D3 and D4). The new model always made a far stronger case for change over the previous model than the D5 does over the D4 IMHO.Disco 4 TDV6HSE
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31st Dec 2017 3:46 pm
Canburne
Member Since: 15 Jan 2013
Location: Devon
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Your decision is probably right as yours is quite highly specced but the balance is the 8 speed gearbox which is excellent, the stop/start which gets you much lower VED and the Euro 6 engine. .
"the inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings....the inherent vice of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries" Winston Churchill
2016 D4 Landmark Club Waitomo ...or is it Club Tempest????
2015 D4 HSE Aintree Green
31st Dec 2017 4:31 pm
robpenrose
Member Since: 12 Jan 2016
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Yep, but 40k to change is the killer isn’t it! A properly working 6 speed D4 is no slower than the 8 speed, isn’t really any smoother and you don’t have to deal with the dial!
The only thing as you say is if Euro6 is required, but it’s still a 40k gamble when no one knows where taxation is going!
All things being equal, you would go for the Landmark, but they are not. There is a 40k gap for essentially the same car (age and mileage aside!)
Current: D4 HSE
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31st Dec 2017 5:03 pm
lespes
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The Landmark will be a smoother nippier ride than your early D4, improved Stat Nav, more toys, but was a slight varience on Landmarks what was fitted, things like Fridge, towbar, etc. About £200 per yr cheaper to Tax too.
I went through this dilemma before getting my Landmark, but no regrets, especially after seeing and driving the much more expensive D5 D4 Landmark MY16 Santorini Black THE LAST
D4 HSE MY12 Marmais Teal: Gone. Missed a lot!
Freelander 2 SD HSE MY11 Silver:Thankfully gone.
D4 HSE MY11 Silver: Gone missed !
Range Rover Sport MY06 HSE Buck Blue: Gone missed!
Discovery D2 TD5 Facelift MY Red Gone Missed!
Discovery D2 TD5 Cobalt Blue: Gone Missed!
Discovery D1 Auto Oxford Blue Not missed at all!
Discovery D1 Avalon Blue First LR! missed!
Now demoted to a VW
31st Dec 2017 5:13 pm
LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23329
As I can't find a replacement for the D4, I was keen to replace my written off 2016 Landmark with another one earlier this year. I'm very glad I did.
This would be the principle reason for change IMO. Now is the time to get a low mileage Landmark.2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography
31st Dec 2017 5:45 pm
Pelyma
Member Since: 06 Jan 2005
Location: Patching, Sussex
Posts: 15496
Splitpin wrote:
We have a high spec yeti L&K with every option, it’s been a great trouble free car 👍
It’s coming to the handback or buy it time and I can’t decide!!
Maybe a used D4 would be good but the yeti is so cheap to run
Just traded our Fl2 for one of these with 50 miles on the clock and paid £20k. Seems like a D4 in miniature in that it’s shape is very practical, well equipped and very economical compared to the Fl2.DS3 TDV6 HSE - Silver with Alpaca (old one) Gone
DS3 TDV6 HSE- Silver with Alpaca (new one) Gone
D4 HSE Lux - Montalcino Red Gone
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31st Dec 2017 5:56 pm
Bigcol66
Member Since: 28 Jul 2010
Location: Welshpool, Powys
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I was in a similar situation as yourself with a 2010 D4 with 120k miles. I bought a 66 plate Landmark for £41K in September. Have values of late D4s gone up?. I got £12.5K for my trade in.
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31st Dec 2017 7:53 pm
sean 471
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It’s the decision I would have made
31st Dec 2017 7:57 pm
Moo D3 Decade
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Pelyma wrote:
Splitpin wrote:
We have a high spec yeti L&K with every option, it’s been a great trouble free car 👍
It’s coming to the handback or buy it time and I can’t decide!!
Maybe a used D4 would be good but the yeti is so cheap to run
Just traded our Fl2 for one of these with 50 miles on the clock and paid £20k. Seems like a D4 in miniature in that it’s shape is very practical, well equipped and very economical compared to the Fl2.
My wife has a YETI 2.0d SE-L and is about to change it for a Karoq. The Yeti has been brilliant, faultless and the dealer experience fantastic. If Skoda brought out a Discovery equivalent then i would there like a shot. New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!)
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
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31st Dec 2017 9:22 pm
Smarticus
Member Since: 01 Jan 2005
Location: Northumberland
Posts: 655
Bigcol66 wrote:
I was in a similar situation as yourself with a 2010 D4 with 120k miles. I bought a 66 plate Landmark for £41K in September. Have values of late D4s gone up?. I got £12.5K for my trade in.
Dealers are currently asking for up to £46k for Landmarks !!!! Landrover Management vehicles with under 10k miles are being released to the dealer network and looking for big money.Disco 4 TDV6HSE
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1st Jan 2018 11:54 am
Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
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Until there’s an adequate replacement for the D4, it will continue to be a seller’s market for really good, late, high spec examples.2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: FL2 as a second car
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
FWIW, I'd keep it ... if you've got the £37K, shove 10 of it in a bank account and carry on driving with the knowledge the Disco can be fixed no matter what it throws at you !
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