BN
Member Since: 18 Mar 2005
Location: Here
Posts: 6463
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From my PM's with Ecosse, I am happy to let him get on with things. I will support and help in any way I possibly can. I think the 'green oval' person is either a person called Tim or Simon at LR, I will find out!
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 15th Apr 2005 1:31 pm |
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scorpio
Member Since: 26 Feb 2005
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 237
 
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MArtin if you want me to i can ask if LROi will advertise your site in there mag for you.
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| 15th Apr 2005 6:46 pm |
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Martin
Site Admin and Owner
Member Since: 06 Nov 2004
Location: Hook Norton
Posts: 18448
 
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Hi Scorpio
I did send an e-mail to LRO about the site, which ended up with Mark Saville, and I had a brief round of e-mail tennis with him, but so far there's nothing come about from it.
Martin
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| 15th Apr 2005 7:01 pm |
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scorpio
Member Since: 26 Feb 2005
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 237
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Ok let me see what I can do.
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| 15th Apr 2005 9:39 pm |
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Marcel
Member Since: 03 Apr 2005
Location: Slavonski Brod
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Did you, guys, consider to include some attorney? Or I did not good understand your discussion. My LR 3 comes next Thursday and I am little bit disappointed, what is it really I bougth!  
Geetings from Croatia
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| 18th Apr 2005 9:25 pm |
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DiscoMad
Member Since: 11 Jan 2005
Location: Warwickshire, United Kingdom
Posts: 190
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Marcel,
Why are you disappointed ?? You have bought a fantastic vehicle !
I continue to be amazed at how smooth the drive is, and I keep finding things, small details that are great !
The peops on this site are early adopters and as such are wanting a few details to be acknowledged and fixed - most likely in your build many of the early issues will have been fixed so dont read the internet ! get out and enjoy it !
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| 18th Apr 2005 9:50 pm |
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DiscoBel
Member Since: 18 Apr 2005
Location: South
Posts: 12
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Just bought a D3 and will get it in September, I hope I will not face the same problems as early adopter.
Courage guys, I have had exactly the same experience with my last Citroen C5.
At first we tried to come to an agreement, I mean they claimed they tried to find an arrangement. They try to make it as long as they could in order to reach the limit of the "reasonable delays". (Case can only be introduced within reasonable delays)
The judge was really comprehensive. I introduced my case after two years of "we really do our best to find solutions to your car issues". They did, I mean they really tried, the car stayed 70 days for repair at my dealer during the first year!
I just won this case.
It took me two years to get this result. It is a pain! I would do it again, cause I really tried to make an agreement prior the sue, they rejected all my proposals!
Love this D3
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| 18th Apr 2005 10:43 pm |
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Blue
Member Since: 10 Mar 2005
Location: Zaragoza, Spain
Posts: 95
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DiscoMad wrote:
... most likely in your build many of the early issues will have been fixed so dont read the internet ! get out and enjoy it !
Well, I'm glad I keep reading the forums till I greet my new four (sometime in June), 'cause you learn something new almost every day. Just don't let these things worry you, read all the posts and see where everyone's coming from.
But remember to tell us your car works fine, so we can all celebrate! Happy owners just get out and enjoy like DiscoMad says, so we don't hear them!
Blue.
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| 18th Apr 2005 10:45 pm |
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cmyers_uk
Member Since: 10 Apr 2005
Location: Near Bristol, UK
Posts: 433
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Blue, Only day 3 but very impressed. Compared to the Disco series 2 the ride is really smooth and quiet. The engine is very nice (Diesel). Sat Nav and Phone great. You will love it
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| 25th Apr 2005 1:26 pm |
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BN
Member Since: 18 Mar 2005
Location: Here
Posts: 6463
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Welcome to the fold cmyers. Yes the D3 is a really great car, I think we all agree. Yes we do complain, but all we want are our questions answered and our defects corrected. If LR had taken a positive stance from day one most of the faults would have been sorted by now. Just as a matter of interest, have you had a two bar fitted? If so please try the lights and suspension for us in 'Rock Crawl' with the trailer lights connected. I would like to know if it conforms with page 212 of the manual. Also if the rear intensity lights cancel out.
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| 25th Apr 2005 3:41 pm |
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cmyers_uk
Member Since: 10 Apr 2005
Location: Near Bristol, UK
Posts: 433
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The tow bars fitted but the electrics were in short supply so its going back before the weekend to have them fitted or the dealer is lending me a different one for the weekend. Ill let you know the answer to your question as soon as I can, because it came with the factory phone kit it has the latest software and there is no update for it so it should be the latest info. So far Im getting 22mpg around town with the auto box.
Regards
Chris
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| 25th Apr 2005 4:18 pm |
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BN
Member Since: 18 Mar 2005
Location: Here
Posts: 6463
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Thank you. MPG is always going to be a bit lower on auto's, but keeping the revs under 1900 for the 1st 500 miles will help run in the car and tyres. Gentle acceleration and gentle braking should give you about 26 to 28MPG. Measure it by refuels, not the guage because that is not too accurate. I am getting a regular 28.5 MPG in a manual and that is with a trailer recently weighing about 1.5 tonnes, but no apprecialble hills I must admit.
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| 25th Apr 2005 4:31 pm |
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Phil B
Member Since: 12 Apr 2005
Location: Amersham, UK - gone to the country!
Posts: 93
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Without wanting to be a naysayer - do you want to kill the resale value on these "expensive" vehicles by putting about bad press? If you can get your way through diplomacy (which, I agree, you may not) surely better than the "I'm going to write to Esther Rantzen" approach!
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| 26th Apr 2005 12:18 am |
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BN
Member Since: 18 Mar 2005
Location: Here
Posts: 6463
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Phil B, we all agree with your basic comments and in fact you have used some of my words exactly about not devalueing the vehicle. But please look at the many previous mails we have placed on the forum. Views exactly the same as yours. You actually say in another recent mail that the heating is not as good as your previous BMW, which is equally negative. In my case I think I am moderate and I have declined to go to press unless I have a case, but my vehicles are tools, what they were made for and they do not work as they should. I have built one of my businesses on LR 110's which are primitive but brilliant. BMW and Ford have ruined the true Land Rover. I actually now have a case and an admission from LR about at least 2 problems, their admissions don't forget. Do you work abroad and cover 100,000 plus miles a year towing a 2 tonne trailer on many unmade roads? my guys do and when the vehicle electrics for instance break down, you could be fighting for your life in -35C or +60C, then a £40,000 vehicle is nothing if it breaks down, but your life is something else and that came free.
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| 26th Apr 2005 7:48 am |
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mwillems
Member Since: 06 Jan 2005
Location: Oakville, Ontario, Canada
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"..but your life is something else and that came free."
Mmm... you'd have to ask your dad about dinners bought, etc...!
Mike
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