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blakken
 


Member Since: 11 Feb 2017
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Sweden 2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 Base 7 Seat Manual Alveston RedDiscovery 3
injection balance

my disco3 is shuddering in idle and upp to 1500rpm den its fine.

checked with auto maxicheck mx808

idle 760 rpm
injector
1-965
2-909
3-1345
4-1007
5-985
6-825

fuelpressure 22000 idle 55000-60000 2500rpm


tested Hawkeye

idle765 rpm
injector
1-1.04
2-0.91
3-1.26
4-0.91
5-1.00
6-0.87

fuel pressure 22000 idle. 60000 2500rpm


so is time for new injectors. car is on 390000km Very Happy

its starts fine but in colder weather its more shuddering

best regards from Sweden
  
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lynalldiscovery
 


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United Kingdom 2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 Metropolis LE Auto Bonatti GreyDiscovery 3

Before I changed mine I noticed an unstabe idle when engine was cold sitting at traffic lights, which was worse in the winter.

Things I noticed with new injectors fitted, smoother idle, much much better starting especially in cold weather, no difference in mpg at all, I think it has more mid range grunt but that might just be a placebo effect.
  
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altblech-schrauber.de
 


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Germany 2007 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Auto Tonga GreenDiscovery 3

i had unstable injection values as well, after much fiffling around with at least 4 Injectors i made the Asumtion that not the injectors are at fault, more likely the engine or some other parts.

Turned out that my knock sensors where bad and this also triggerred erratic idle and balance values
  
Post #22899862nd May 2022 7:22 am
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eightfoot
 


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United Kingdom 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 S Auto Bonatti GreyDiscovery 3
Re: injection balance

blakken wrote:
my disco3 is shuddering in idle and upp to 1500rpm den its fine.

checked with auto maxicheck mx808

idle 760 rpm
injector
1-965
2-909
3-1345
4-1007
5-985
6-825

fuelpressure 22000 idle 55000-60000 2500rpm


tested Hawkeye

idle765 rpm
injector
1-1.04
2-0.91
3-1.26
4-0.91
5-1.00
6-0.87

fuel pressure 22000 idle. 60000 2500rpm


so is time for new injectors. car is on 390000km Very Happy

its starts fine but in colder weather its more shuddering

best regards from Sweden



i would try some injector cleaner in the fuel and premium diesel for a few tankful's first then see where your at
 please excuse any grammer/punctuation mistakes,i'm thick,thankyou
current vehicles 2005 d3 2013 d4 
 
Post #22899972nd May 2022 9:33 am
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blakken
 


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Sweden 2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 Base 7 Seat Manual Alveston RedDiscovery 3

I have tried that a few times with out results!
I have tried 2stroke oil..nothing!

I will test the knocking sensor and se
  
Post #22900102nd May 2022 12:45 pm
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blakken
 


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Sweden 2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 Base 7 Seat Manual Alveston RedDiscovery 3

It idle fine but when i hit the pedal its start chuddering up to 1500rpm
I disconected the knocksensor its the same.

And when i rev it and let off trottle and rpm lowers its start chuddering from 1500rpm to idle and be stable.

How is the injectors place inj1 where is it on engine and so on?
  
Post #22900252nd May 2022 4:24 pm
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Breg90
 


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Do you have erratic idle, smething like reving up to say 1300 rpm (with no throttle peddle input), drops back down and repeats on about a 2 second cycle? If so consider checking the oil temperature sensor for a plausible output. Mine failed to something like -32C. Makes the engine idle erratic/engine to rev on idle. You should be able to check via your code reader.
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Post #22901543rd May 2022 9:46 pm
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Motolab
 


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Did you clean your MAP sensor allready?

You will be amazed how much gunk is collected in the inlet manifold and therefore the sensor there

Have a read here:

https://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/go-clean-ma...hlight=Map
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Post #22901623rd May 2022 10:35 pm
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blakken
 


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Sweden 2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 Base 7 Seat Manual Alveston RedDiscovery 3

i have new air flow sensor new map sensor
new fuel filter new air filter.

can some one tell me the injection mounting position on engine.
from front of car left sid front to rear and right side front to rear.
  
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blakken
 


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Sweden 2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 Base 7 Seat Manual Alveston RedDiscovery 3

Breg90 wrote:
Do you have erratic idle, smething like reving up to say 1300 rpm (with no throttle peddle input), drops back down and repeats on about a 2 second cycle? If so consider checking the oil temperature sensor for a plausible output. Mine failed to something like -32C. Makes the engine idle erratic/engine to rev on idle. You should be able to check via your code reader.



no its idle fine.
just apply throttle its start to shuddering up too 1500rpm then its ok and when let throttle of its start shuddering from 1500rpm down to idle.
  
Post #22901994th May 2022 9:08 am
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Motolab
 


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blakken wrote:

can some one tell me the injection mounting position on engine.


Hi, why don't you do some research yourself in the WIKI here on this forum? and you will find the workshopmanual with all the details you need incl. the inj position Wink

https://www.disco3.co.uk/wiki/Discovery_3_...air_Manual

section 303-01C Engine- 2.7L Diesel will give you the details you want...

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Harold

Always looking for Pre '55's & Pre war British Motorcycles! knowing or having one for sale? PM please. I visit the UK 6 times a year

Ps. I edit my texts quite often, english is not my native language, so I will edit My “typo’s” etc. Wink 
 
Post #22902024th May 2022 9:42 am
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blakken
 


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Embarassed Didnt now it there.
Thanks man now i will read.
Need to digg in deper in this problem and this forum and wiki😂
  
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