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Is this an EGR issue ... NO It's the TURBO!!!
D3 been diagnosed the other day with the battery not receiving charge under 2,000rpm
http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic28471.html
So in cold mornings been getting various error messages on screen, but these messages disappear after a few moments.
However today upon start up an Engine Fault message came on, and appeared to go away.
But it was still showing when scrolling through the 'i' menu.
I found that when driving, the accelerator had a very long pedal ie no response until near half way down.
And then a huge amount of black smoke belched out as the acceleration kicked in.
Stopped at my destination for around an hour, came back and started engine.
No engine fault message.
So when in countryside, I booted it to see if there was any black smoke.
Acceleration was what it should be and no black smoke.
Then ...the Engine Fault message came back on.
Within a few hundred yards there was no acceleration with D3 slowing and not going faster than around 10mph and that was with my foot to the floor.
Hazards on, pulled over to the side, switched engine off.
Re-started it in one minute and all was fine all the way home [although I didn't boot it].
Sounds like an EGR issue [and I believe i read a similar post recently].
But, could it have been the low voltage starts that sent an error message to the ECU and caused the EGR to act up????
also [don't think it's related but] now got an issue with the radio backlight staying on for a minute after vehicle is parked n locked - but that's going on a seperate thread.
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20th Dec 2008 6:13 pm
SHARKYSHARKS
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same thing happened to my disco last week but mine broke down in the middle of a narrow country lane !!! managed to get a jump start using large truck battery from work, on restarting all the warning lights were on and special programmes message was showing on the dash, on further investigation checked the charge and it was only kicking out 12 volts.spoke to our local auto elec supplier and he informs us that the alternator is lr supply only, rang every dealer around manchester and informed that they are not available at the factory, unless i want a new one and not a recon, new one £212.00 plus vat got ya over a barrel so bite the bullet and hand over the dosh pretty straight forward to change as long as you have a 36mm spanner to get the fan off now its kicking out 15.4 volts
20th Dec 2008 8:05 pm
Disco_Mikey
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Engine system fault = Turbo
Best to get the faults checked first though. My money is on the faults being P032D, P2299 and/or P0132
Everyone i have seen with system fault on the dash has required a new turbo...
There is a tech. bulletin for these faults, which basically says clear the faults and road test, if it re-occurs and the above fault return, the turbo should be replaced...
20th Dec 2008 8:07 pm
ronp
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but I was a normal heterosexual chap, but in these new woke awakenings I now identify as a Wardrobe.
20th Dec 2008 8:10 pm
ronp
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Disco_Mikey wrote:
Everyone i have seen with system fault on the dash has required a new turbo...
On second thoughts, not convinced!
Why did the engine perform ok when restarted?
Ok, I didn't give it welly, but gave it enough for the turbo to kick in.
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20th Dec 2008 8:15 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
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It's a Land Rover, we're not meant to understand!!!
20th Dec 2008 8:18 pm
Disco_Mikey
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ronp wrote:
Disco_Mikey wrote:
Everyone i have seen with system fault on the dash has required a new turbo...
On second thoughts, not convinced!
Why did the engine perform ok when restarted?
Ok, I didn't give it welly, but gave it enough for the turbo to kick in.
Because, when the ignition is switched off, the fault is not present, but it is stored in the ECM. When you re-cycle the ignition, it still isnt present, until you floor it and the fault does occur. One of those above faults are an overboost fault.
Then the fault is present again, until the ignition is swithced off
All the turbo's i have changed seem to have a partially seized VNT mechanism.
Hope that made sense.
Its the same reasoning that some people have suspension faults, that clear with an ignition cycle
20th Dec 2008 8:58 pm
Disco_Mikey
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Just a thought, but you werent towing at all, were you?
Found out last week that if you are towing something with LED lights, this could also bring up the engine system fault
20th Dec 2008 9:02 pm
MacLeod 313
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Yeah, but I can throw the cat among the pigeons here. I started mine and left it running whilst washing it, and when I finished I was about to turn it off when I noticed the "i" on the dash, scrolled through and again my said "Engine System Fault" !!!!!!!!!
So surley it canny be Turbo, did'nt go anywhere and did'nt rev it. I turned it off, restarted it and all is ok for now
20th Dec 2008 9:32 pm
ronp
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Disco_Mikey wrote:
Just a thought, but you werent towing at all, were you?
Well, sort of ...had swmbo in passenger seat!! now if it's not just the turbo, then I too am truly well and deed!! I was a normal heterosexual chap, but in these new woke awakenings I now identify as a Wardrobe.
20th Dec 2008 9:40 pm
Disco_Mikey
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MacLeod 313 wrote:
Yeah, but I can throw the cat among the pigeons here. I started mine and left it running whilst washing it, and when I finished I was about to turn it off when I noticed the "i" on the dash, scrolled through and again my said "Engine System Fault" !!!!!!!!!
So surley it canny be Turbo, did'nt go anywhere and did'nt rev it. I turned it off, restarted it and all is ok for now
If it only done it the once, and hasnt done it again, i would put it down to an electrical glitch.
If it comes on when the engine is under load, I would suspect the turbo...
Could still be the battery though maybe its just charging enough just to get car started and then is not retaining charge. Might be worth swopping battery to see I had this before in my beloved P38.Googsy
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20th Dec 2008 9:53 pm
MacLeod 313
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Second time to be honest, last time was a week ago, I pulled away up a hill from my house, so the engine was cold, noticed it was'nt pulling as well as it should, noticed the "i", turned it off n on and it cleared. Was all ok till I left it ticking over to be honest.
20th Dec 2008 9:54 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
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EGR valve packed up, hence the warning???
20th Dec 2008 10:00 pm
MacLeod 313
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I canny see that it my EGR valves, I think its just a gremlin to be honest. I clear the fault and all is ok. Its only happened once when that lost power, today's was when the motor was ticking over for about 30mins
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pretty straight forward to change as long as you have a 36mm spanner to get the fan off now its kicking out 15.4 volts 
but 
I turned it off, restarted it and all is ok for now 
