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JATE Ring
I have seen quite a few of you have JATE rings for recovery etc, where's a good place to get them from.
24th May 2008 11:21 am
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Not seen any on a D3 ...always use the existing recovery points 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
CW, do you mean the bow shackles that fit onto the rear recovery point? Devon 4x4 do them, and probably most other 4x4 parts dealers too.Previously:
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24th May 2008 1:27 pm
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I think you might be referring to teh bow shackles that are generally attached to the tow points?Bodsys Brake Bible
I have 2 x 4.75T bow shackles for D3 recovery, a pile of 4.75T & 3.25T in the Defender and a 2T for recovering smaller vehicles where their tow eye is likely to be too small to take a decent size shackle.
They do strops too. Remember that SWL is usually to a factor of 6:1 or better, so a 2T strop is more than ample for offroad recovery, having a breaking strain of 12TI know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
31st May 2008 11:42 pm
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lifting straps are strops duplex 4m and 8-10m will cover pretty much every situationI know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
I think the Duplex Lifting Slings are just what you need - you just need to decide on what load rating. There are probably cheaper suppliers though - £50 for an 8 ton 4 mtr strop seems a bit steep. I got a good one off ebay from a UK manufacturer for a lot less - i use it for pulling the boat trailer out of the water without getting the D3 wet. This is their website - http://www.lrsoffroad.co.uk/Previously:
2005 D3 2.7 TDV6 S
1984 90 2.25 Petrol CSW
1992 90 200TDi Hard Top
1995 Discovery ES 300TDi
2003 90 TD5 Truck Cab
you only need a 2t strop. 12t breaking strain with 6.1 safety factorI know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
2nd Jun 2008 8:58 am
PaulP
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NoDo$h wrote:
you only need a 2t strop. 12t breaking strain with 6.1 safety factor
Hi ND,
Can you explain what you mean by the 6:1 safety factor?
Cheers,
Paul2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE AutoBuckingham Blue 2007 Golf GT DSG
2nd Jun 2008 9:13 am
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you only need a 2t strop. 12t breaking strain with 6.1 safety factor
Hi ND,
Can you explain what you mean by the 6:1 safety factor?
Cheers,
Paul
Any lifting gear with a SWL under 10T has to have a safety factor of at least 6:1 and will often have a higher factor. So a 2T SWL lifting strop at 6:1 has been tested to 12t, 7:1 tested to 14T etc.
All tested strops are colour coded. 2t is green, which is the colour you will see in pretty much everybody's boot
when offroad and is the rating/colour you see for sale at Devon 4x4, Frogs, Cheviot etc.
Remember that strops and ropes are really for aiding a stuck vehicle, giving it a bit of assistance to get it rolling and for general towing. I'd not want to use one to pull a vehicle that is stuck in goo up to the chassis rails up a steep slope, that's where a winch recovery comes in (or consider towing the vehicle DOWN the slope if that's a pratical work around). A fully laden D3 that's ground out on a slope could need as much as 12T of pull to get it up the slope, which is way more force than I would want to put on a D3 chassis.
So in short, a 2T strop is fine for the job of pulling a D3 out of a bit of mud on Salisbury Plain or helping it up a slippery slope in a quarry
Worth considering ropes too. They tend to have some "give" so allow you to be a little less gentle in getting the stuck vehicle moving. With strops you need to take your time in taking up the strain. I carry both ropes and strops.I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
2nd Jun 2008 11:28 am
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Crystal clear....
Thanks a lot ND 2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE AutoBuckingham Blue 2007 Golf GT DSG
2nd Jun 2008 1:58 pm
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Competitive prices on Duplex certificated UK lifting slings here click
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duplex 4m and 8-10m will cover pretty much every situation
