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lrovy
 


Member Since: 01 May 2019
Location: Nice
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France 2010 LR4 5.0 V8 HSE Auto Unknown ColourLR4

Sorry for not being clear.
It is IID tool, straight after searching for the tool and before connecting to it.
Hope is that SDD might show more details.
  
Post #206111014th Jun 2019 12:27 pm
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Avalon
 


Member Since: 01 Apr 2013
Location: Bavaria
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Germany 2014 Discovery 4 3.0 SCV6 HSE Auto Corris GreyDiscovery 4

No Connection to the HS can can have various causes:
- Pins of the ODB-Port not making good connection to the IID-Tool (known problem)
- Short circuit or disconnected terminating resistors on the BUS - check resistance with a multimeter when battery is disconnected
- Module not plugged in correctly - check anything disturbed lately
- Defunct module

As the locksmith seems to have disconnected a number of modules, check the connections on those modules. If he damaged the KVM, unplugging it might give access to the bus.
A hard reset might also help if you have not performed one already.

Regards,
Olaf
 Disco4 V6 SC HSE (MY2014)  
Post #206112214th Jun 2019 1:20 pm
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lrovy
 


Member Since: 01 May 2019
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France 2010 LR4 5.0 V8 HSE Auto Unknown ColourLR4

Thanks! Will have it checked and will post update.
  
Post #206114014th Jun 2019 1:51 pm
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lrovy
 


Member Since: 01 May 2019
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France 2010 LR4 5.0 V8 HSE Auto Unknown ColourLR4

Sorry guys for small delay in update as was going through some hiccups at my end.
I will get more details a bit later as am still away.

"The earlier LR specialist", the same one who earlier said that new KVM is required, was pretty helpful again as connected "computer" (guess is SDD) and did run procedure of "teaching" which I guess means reprogram or push something to car twice and all started to work nicely.

I'm not entirely sure yet what "teach" meant exactly will try to get more details once will see him f2f as am away for the moment.

Lessons learnt:
- KVM locked with other keys, can be forced to learn 2 new keys - required taking KVM out and reprogramming EEPROM (more details on digital-kaos forum),
- KVM hasn't been destroyed by locksmith and works fine,
- KVM and other systems were connected correctly though GAP IID was showing the error message "No connection with high speed CAN" and no VIN, straight after searching for the tool within the app.
- SDD might be required after above procedure is done (at least was in my case) to reprogram - details to be confirmed. No magic, as per update so far, simple "teach" button was used twice without any magic.
- keys do work to open/close and start the car.

The "patient" was LR4, 2010, NAS.

Hope this helps others who would be in similar situation.
  
Post #206436927th Jun 2019 1:41 pm
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M3bobby
 


Member Since: 21 May 2018
Location: Sleaford, LINCS.
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Did you buy this car missing keys because it was stolen/recovered or because the keys were lost/damaged? Was it straight from insurance write off? I’m wondering if someone had replaced the BCM in the CJB.
  
Post #206437627th Jun 2019 2:37 pm
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lrovy
 


Member Since: 01 May 2019
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France 2010 LR4 5.0 V8 HSE Auto Unknown ColourLR4

Car was acquired from insurer via auction after small incident (lost one front light, small dent on mask and corner around lamp) - no issue with frame, suspension or anything else.
This has been confirmed by independent verification - similar to Lemon Squad. Car was in run & drive condition and was shipped with the key (working one). I've pictures showing ignition on. For whatever reason either the key was mixed with key from other car or something else did happen during the time car was awaiting to be loaded into container (almost 2 months due to "jammed" port as per info I've received).
Carfax VIN based verification did match with descriptions and dates worked well for Insurer procedures to sell car.
Checking with LR authorized dealers where car was serviced till the end did reveal also that the previous owner did take care of the car very well and did everything at LR authorized service.
I've even went ahead and reached out to previous owner as was able to identify him (well recognized doctor with PhD).

I didn't discover anything suspicious and only suspicions I can have is that something could be happening to the car during it's time awaiting for loading into container though hard to believe someone would could find any value in replacing a module, i.e. KVM. I've had such a thought for 5 seconds but then dropped the conspiracy theory, as if LR is forced to provide KVM with new key and even if not, the cost of it is 400EUR, the hassle to replace it with non-working one is not worth a while.
If I'd discover more parts not working well or something then I could start having some doubts into what was happening with the car awaiting for loading, but there would need to be some sings of it in the engine bay or elsewhere and it looks untouched, at least until now.

Why would one want to replace BCM in the CJB? Any thoughts on reasons and advantages of it replacing with non-working one? What issues could I expect and how to verify this to exclude this?

Thanks.
  
Post #206449727th Jun 2019 11:23 pm
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M3bobby
 


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It sounds like everything is ok. I wondered if the keys had maybe been stolen and someone had purchased another set of BCM, Key etc from a write off to get the car working. If that occurred a VIN based key electronically wouldn’t work.

It’s common in the UK for breakers to sell a set of key, clocks, BCM etc to get a car running again. This unfortunately changes the electronic identity of the car so it now matches the written off car.
  
Post #206450327th Jun 2019 11:33 pm
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lrovy
 


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France 2010 LR4 5.0 V8 HSE Auto Unknown ColourLR4

Thanks for help.

Greetings from Cranage, Cheshire.

P.s. wonderful landscape Smile
  
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