Member Since: 09 Jun 2006
Location: Naples
Posts: 400
Do you like the D4 rotary shift?
.. in my opinion the rotary shift is the only thing that I hate on my D4.
Land Rover, too, seems don't have clear ideas on this point and, after Range Sport, has just went back on new Discovery SVX for which returned to the classic and much more instinctive shift lever.
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I would be very curious to know what you think on this point.D3 TDV6, Zermatt Silver, Coil Spring Suspension, Tyres 285/55 R 18
D4 TDV6, Santorini Black, Coil Spring Suspension, Tyres 285/45 R 20
24th Sep 2017 7:15 am
LaserTam
Member Since: 31 Aug 2015
Location: Essex
Posts: 828
My D4 is my first automatic, and it has the rotary shift, so I have nothing to compare against. However, I have found it to be absolutely fine to use.MY2012 D4 HSE Nara Bronze with some extra stuff
24th Sep 2017 7:25 am
Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7438
Ignore the title of the thread and read beyond the first page because it got pretty evenly divided (and equally strongly felt) replies.
Personally, having used both types, I much prefer the rotary selector / paddle shift combination on the D4 to the BMW look-a-like system on the RRS. Is this an attempt to take sales from competitors by being more like them, rather than having the confidence to stand by a design feature that appears to be uniquely JLR?2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: FL2 as a second car
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
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24th Sep 2017 7:28 am
disco68
Member Since: 09 Jun 2006
Location: Naples
Posts: 400
I think after seeing ending cars down from the top of the car parkings and finishing in the home garden pools they will have realized that that rotary shift is not in the reach of everyone and everyoneD3 TDV6, Zermatt Silver, Coil Spring Suspension, Tyres 285/55 R 18
D4 TDV6, Santorini Black, Coil Spring Suspension, Tyres 285/45 R 20
There is no mechanical feedback from the rotary dial as to what position it is in. The user has to shift their vision from the road to look way down and this takes a dangerous amount of time. There is an indicator on the dash hisplay which is obscured by the wheel rim for people of a particular height.
So yet another design by someone who does not have to use it.A vaccine does not stop you catching a virus, or passing it on, or getting ill from it, really ill. It does reduce the likelyhood of you dying when really, really ill. Stay Alive - KEEP AWAY FROM PEOPLE.
24th Sep 2017 12:09 pm
Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
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On the contrary; the knob clicks through each position and needs a deliberative action to go into Sport. Other than that, it’s all the way left for Park, all the way right for Drive and one click in from the left for Reverse. This has to be one of the simplest things in the car to use!
How do users who struggle with this get on with navigating around the multiple safety interlocks on the the BMW clone lever?2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: FL2 as a second car
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
24th Sep 2017 12:18 pm
MarkOne
Member Since: 23 Jul 2011
Location: County Antrim
Posts: 3345
It's not to difficult to learn the sequence of gears using the rotary knob.
24th Sep 2017 12:20 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
Member Since: 11 May 2006
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I've only driven an 8 speeder for a couple of hours, kind of got used to it. One difference cf the 6 speed is very poor slow speed control, eg moving around on a sloping drive. Very lurchy, 6 speeder is much better.
I also made the mistake of trying out the paddles on the 8 spd, then found i couldn't get back to normal without switching it from D to N then back to D. All on the hoof. How are you supposed to get it out of flappy paddle mode without taking it out of drive?
24th Sep 2017 12:28 pm
DG Site Moderator
Member Since: 12 Dec 2005
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Del ...just hold the paddle for four or five seconds and it will revert to D
24th Sep 2017 12:30 pm
LaserTam
Member Since: 31 Aug 2015
Location: Essex
Posts: 828
Or switch it into Sport and back again, at least don't loose drive (compared to switching to N)MY2012 D4 HSE Nara Bronze with some extra stuff
24th Sep 2017 12:33 pm
Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7438
Is this one of those RTFM moments?!! 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: FL2 as a second car
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
24th Sep 2017 1:16 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
Member Since: 11 May 2006
Location: Off again! :-)
Posts: 72787
Reading and driving don't go together!!
24th Sep 2017 1:20 pm
disco68
Member Since: 09 Jun 2006
Location: Naples
Posts: 400
In my opinion the discussion should not be done! You are underestimating a thing!
When Land Rover presents the Discovery SVX and declares that it abandons the rotary knob and goes back because the shift lever is more maneuverable (if you don't believe me, read the press release of the new Discovery SVX) at my country we call this "confession of guilty" by Land Rover
After this, there is nothing to be discussed because Land Rover told that the shift lever is better!
Land Rover choose the rotary knob only for a design reason: never a choice have been so stupid and irrational.D3 TDV6, Zermatt Silver, Coil Spring Suspension, Tyres 285/55 R 18
D4 TDV6, Santorini Black, Coil Spring Suspension, Tyres 285/45 R 20
24th Sep 2017 1:54 pm
B16 KJR
Member Since: 10 Jul 2006
Location: Rosyth, Fife
Posts: 3005
DG wrote:
Del ...just hold the paddle for four or five seconds and it will revert to D
Mine just reverts back to normal D automatically after 10-20 seconds if the paddles aren't touched again. Much prefer the rotary knob and paddles
24th Sep 2017 2:03 pm
DG Site Moderator
Member Since: 12 Dec 2005
Location: The Gaff
Posts: 50934
Yep, it will do that as well ...no doubt del would have been held in a gear he didn't want though and 20 seconds is a long time
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