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elliot330 wrote:
NJSS wrote:
My understanding is that Euro 6 compliant diesel cars are exempt from ULEZ charges, which includes almost every diesel car registered since September 2015.
Likewise petrol cars meeting at least Euro 4 emissions standards are exempt, which includes virtually every petrol car registered since January 2006.
NJSS
It depends if its a high polluting euro 6... the Disco 4 is considered to be high in the Ulez chart, hence the daily charge
I believe euro 6, is euro 6. A D4 euro 6 is as compliant as any other euro 6.
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12th Feb 2021 9:03 am
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Certainly my folks’ E6/adblue D4 is ulez compliant.
12th Feb 2021 9:15 am
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Just typed in a reg number for a 2014 D4 Commercial and its coming up as a charge of £12:50p My Euro 6 D4 is no charge!.
12th Feb 2021 9:19 am
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Now I'm more confused?
My 16 plate Commerical KM16UPN is reporting that it costs £12.50 - is that wrong?
KM16UPN Blue LAND ROVER DISCOVERY SE SDV6 AUTO
ULEZ charge applies to this vehicle
Daily charge: £12.50
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It depends if its a high polluting euro 6... the Disco 4 is considered to be high in the Ulez chart, hence the daily charge
I don't think that's correct Euro 6 is Euro 6.
If you can point to the legislation/regulation defining different degrees of Euro 6 I should be grateful.
Some early D4s may not be Euro 6.
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12th Feb 2021 9:28 am
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Could just be an error in the database, ISTR it had my MY11 D4 as compliant which it patently wasn’t. Try finding a few more D4 commercials’ regs (Autotrader, eBay, etc) and bunging them in.
I think the problem may be that early, (non Adblue ?) D4s are not Euro 6, whilst later D4s are.
No doubt someone will come along with the right answer.
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2016 Discovery 4 Landmark
2011 Mercedes Benz SL350 (R230)
1973 MG B GT V8 - 3.9L John Eales engine, 5 speed R380 gearbox, since 1975.
1959 MGA roadster - 1.9L Peter Burgess Engine - 5 speed gearbox
Past LRs - Multiple FFRs, Discos & a Series I - some petrol, some diesel,
none Electric or H2 fuel cell - yet.
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12th Feb 2021 9:33 am
elliot330
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NJSS wrote:
elliot330
Quote:
It depends if its a high polluting euro 6... the Disco 4 is considered to be high in the Ulez chart, hence the daily charge
I don't think that's correct Euro 6 is Euro 6.
If you can point to the legislation/regulation defining different degrees of Euro 6 I should be grateful.
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robpenrose wrote:
elliot330 wrote:
NJSS wrote:
My understanding is that Euro 6 compliant diesel cars are exempt from ULEZ charges, which includes almost every diesel car registered since September 2015.
Likewise petrol cars meeting at least Euro 4 emissions standards are exempt, which includes virtually every petrol car registered since January 2006.
NJSS
It depends if its a high polluting euro 6... the Disco 4 is considered to be high in the Ulez chart, hence the daily charge
I believe euro 6, is euro 6. A D4 euro 6 is as compliant as any other euro 6.
I would agree, maybe I'm confused, I thought all MY 16 are Euro 6?
I am suspicious of the Mayor of London The information on his website comes from https://www.emissionsanalytics.com/, but I can't find a way of searching it.
The authoritative answer can however be found on the Vehicle Certification Agency's (VCA) database here:-
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1973 MG B GT V8 - 3.9L John Eales engine, 5 speed R380 gearbox, since 1975.
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Past LRs - Multiple FFRs, Discos & a Series I - some petrol, some diesel,
none Electric or H2 fuel cell - yet.
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12th Feb 2021 10:14 am
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are commercials treated differently?
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12th Feb 2021 10:19 am
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Elliot, from the tfl website.
My 2010 TDV8 RRS with no DPF is just £12.50, my 2011 Disco Commercial with DPF is £100, and my mates 2010 Disco (passenger car) £12.50.
The £100 charge is for all light commercial vehicles, so maybe your commercial isn't registered as such on the DVLA database.
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12th Feb 2021 10:20 am
elliot330
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Dave,
I think you are right... the more I dig the worse it gets...
NJSS posted a good link and depending on the Year and power output of the Disco it changes from Eu5 to Eu6.
It's a minefield.
12th Feb 2021 10:27 am
elliot330
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Trailered Movements wrote:
Elliot, from the tfl website.
My 2010 TDV8 RRS with no DPF is just £12.50, my 2011 Disco Commercial with DPF is £100, and my mates 2010 Disco (passenger car) £12.50.
The £100 charge is for all light commercial vehicles, so maybe your commercial isn't registered as such on the DVLA database.
Dave
Dave, just done some more digging... maybe your Disco is in the wrong grouping?
To help improve air quality, an Ultra Low Emission Zone (ULEZ) operates 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, every day of the year, except Christmas Day (25 December), within the same area of central London as the Congestion Charge.
Most vehicles, including cars and vans, need to meet the ULEZ emissions standards or their drivers must pay a daily charge to drive within the zone:
£12.50 for most vehicle types, including cars, motorcycles and vans (up to and including 3.5 tonnes)
£100 for heavier vehicles, including lorries (over 3.5 tonnes) and buses/coaches (over 5 tonnes)
12th Feb 2021 10:50 am
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IIRC
2014MY D4 added stop/start which lowered the VED from £565 to £330 but remained Euro 5
late 2015MY added adblu which lowered the VED a bit more (to £265 ??) and classified it as Euro 6
I think that's about right but happy to be corrected.
Havent light commercial vehicles always been rated higher on the Congestion Charge/LEZ ?? but the vehicle needs to be registered as light commercial on the V5 ??2011 D4 XS 305 MY12 - gone but not forgotten
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