Member Since: 26 Dec 2019
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 307
If taxed as a light commercial then the car tax system (with a few exceptions for some older Euro 4 and 5 vehicles) does not use emissions as a means to determine the rate of VED as they use a one size fits all approach which the CC system also uses. This can work in your favour if you have an older D3 which would otherwise be over £500 a year but is only £265 if it is taxed as a LGV
Sadly the euro 6 D4 VED is still £330
12th Feb 2021 11:00 am
Trailered Movements
Member Since: 16 Jan 2020
Location: East/West Sussex Coast Borders
Posts: 1198
In my case I might have found an issue.
My current registration number used to reside on my truck, but the information on the tfl website has it down as a Land Rover Commercial, however, if I put in the Discos original number, it comes up as having to pay only £12.50, but doesn't state what the vehicle is.
I'm more confused.com now.
Going to register the vehicle and challenge the rate of charge, at least it can't increase.
Dave2011 Discovery 4 Commercial SDV6 (Gone)
2010 RRS TDV8 (Gone)
1980 OBLIC 4.0ltr Range Rover (went a long time ago)
12th Feb 2021 11:02 am
jonno1
Member Since: 16 Jun 2010
Location: SW London
Posts: 707
Living in SW15 we are already in the LEZ and only a mile from the coming ULEZ. It is possible to drive to Victoria Stn/Coach without entering the congestion zone by crossing just Putney Bridge and skirting the river. Cross any other bridge and you are in the zone. As for euro 6, thought long and hard about updating from my D4 2014 to a later one but came to my senses when I realised that the additional cost would never be repaid and the car has been truly superb.
Westminster surcharges for parking any diesels, other boroughs will follow. Euro 6 is OK for now in London but the anti-diesel lobby is gaining strength so who knows for how long.
I do drive into London regularly and I want to keep my Disco. My solution:
ULEZ proof, one owner, fsh 12000m. £30ved. Looked for this model (450) specifically as it is 6” shorter than 2007 onwards and has the fabulous Merc 3cyl 700cc 6plug motor. Later stuff is Mitsubishi. Got it just in time as prices are rising for good unthrashed ones.
Beware if you have to contact TFL. My 1972 S3 Lightweight should be ULEZ exempt, it was registered in 1982 with a K plate. No way to contact them just now so I’ll wait to be taken to court.
The pleasures of living in London🙄🙄
12th Feb 2021 11:23 am
azurar01
Member Since: 24 Feb 2011
Location: Gloucestershire
Posts: 509
Two cities in the UK are introducing Clean Air Zones in addition to London.
I predict "interesting times" for residents of Batheaston by the toll bridge, as it bypasses the clean air zone I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
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2016 Discovery 4 Landmark
2011 Mercedes Benz SL350 (R230)
1973 MG B GT V8 - 3.9L John Eales engine, 5 speed R380 gearbox, since 1975.
1959 MGA roadster - 1.9L Peter Burgess Engine - 5 speed gearbox
Past LRs - Multiple FFRs, Discos & a Series I - some petrol, some diesel,
none Electric or H2 fuel cell - yet.
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12th Feb 2021 12:44 pm
Jamiehol
Member Since: 13 Nov 2015
Location: Ipswich
Posts: 347
Trailered Movements wrote:
In my case I might have found an issue.
My current registration number used to reside on my truck, but the information on the tfl website has it down as a Land Rover Commercial, however, if I put in the Discos original number, it comes up as having to pay only £12.50, but doesn't state what the vehicle is.
I'm more confused.com now.
Going to register the vehicle and challenge the rate of charge, at least it can't increase.
Dave
The TFL system doesn’t deal with plate transfers very well, we bought a ULEZ complaint BMW I checked the car we bought on their system before purchase as at the time we were travelling in a lot and it was all complaint, when I then transferred the plate from my wife’s 2010 D4 the TFL system knew the plate was now on a BMW but showed it as no complaint for ULEZ.
We had to contact TFL and send them data from the V5 and the they corrected their data.
12th Feb 2021 1:29 pm
Gary_P
Member Since: 03 May 2016
Location: Kent
Posts: 1521
Checked mine (2016 MY EU6 model registered June 2015) on London and this clean air site.
London - no charge
Bath -no charge
Birmingham £8 chargeGary
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Discovery 4 HSE 2016MY
12th Feb 2021 2:37 pm
Dondiddy
Member Since: 26 Dec 2019
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 307
Thats odd! My wife`s Euro 5 Mazda which has the £12:50p charge for London is no charge for the other 2 sites. My Euro 6 D4 is no charge on all 3 sites!
12th Feb 2021 2:43 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
Member Since: 11 May 2006
Location: Off again! :-)
Posts: 72786
My folks’ 16 EU6 Landmark is £0 for both.
12th Feb 2021 2:44 pm
Gary_P
Member Since: 03 May 2016
Location: Kent
Posts: 1521
Strange. Now I feel picked on.
I wont be going to Birmingham then (even when I'm allowed).Gary
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Discovery 4 HSE 2016MY
12th Feb 2021 4:08 pm
Moo D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: Wiltshire
Posts: 13906
NoDo$h wrote:
I predict "interesting times" for residents of Batheaston by the toll bridge, as it bypasses the clean air zone
I know. Its bad enough as it is. New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!)
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control
12th Feb 2021 4:23 pm
CIO
Member Since: 06 Mar 2018
Location: Bahrain
Posts: 109
elliot330 wrote:
It depends if its a high polluting euro 6... the Disco 4 is considered to be high in the Ulez chart, hence the daily charge
Where did you get this from? Surely EU6 is EU6. Just checked the tfl site linked earlier in the thread and my 16 plate is recognised correctly and the site states: No ULEZ charge due for this vehicle.Chris
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2016 D4 Landmark in the UK. 2014 LR4 SE in Bahrain.
My 16 plate Commerical KM16UPN is reporting that it costs £12.50 - is that wrong?
KM16UPN Blue LAND ROVER DISCOVERY SE SDV6 AUTO
ULEZ charge applies to this vehicle
Daily charge: £12.50
Commercial, under 3.5t did not have to be Euro 6 compliant till September 2016 we delayed changing one of ours because of it. £12.50 is correct as it’s below 3.5t. Above 3.5t it’s £100.
14th Feb 2021 10:08 pm
Trailered Movements
Member Since: 16 Jan 2020
Location: East/West Sussex Coast Borders
Posts: 1198
So, asked TfL to explain why the same vehicle on it's original plate was £12.50, and on it's new plate £100, and as you can see, no intelligent answer, just that their system will be changed to reflect either registration will be £100.
Dave2011 Discovery 4 Commercial SDV6 (Gone)
2010 RRS TDV8 (Gone)
1980 OBLIC 4.0ltr Range Rover (went a long time ago)
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