Member Since: 14 Nov 2017
Location: Cannock
Posts: 158
Looking at buying D4
Hi all!
I am looking at buying a D4 after xmas and so I'm doing my research to try and get my head round the different specs, engines, models etc etc.
Ive always loved land rovers in general, and this will be my first so I'm a bit of a newb!
I have been having a good dig around the forum and found out some good info, thanks!
All in all after reading various posts I am quite assured that the 4 is quite a reliable and extremely capable beast. It seems the main concern being the crank issue? Is there something that can be done as a preventative measure with this or is it a case of fingers crossed?
Just need to get my head around spec levels etc. I gather the HSE is the crème de la crème fully kitted out model?
And then the different engines. I think I will aim at the 3 litre due to the size/weight of the vehicle in the first place but mainly as I will be tugging a large caravan around occasionally.
Is there a particular engine to look for? or avoid? probably a daft question but what is the difference between SDV & TDV? which is the desirable preference?
Oh and realistically what MPG can I expect? Im not expecting anything great but would be good to know. My journeys are mixed between approx 300 miles a week mainly motorway & about 200 a week urban
Any info at all would be much appreciated.
14th Nov 2017 11:56 pm
SHARKYSHARKS
Member Since: 20 Dec 2008
Location: Saddleworth Oldham
Posts: 1954
I’ve got a D4 GS for sale MY18 D5 HSE LUX😎
MY12 Freelander SD4 HSE
44 Tonne 12 Litre 6x2 Scania T cab (Current)
Freelander 1 (Wrote off 😫)
Ex D1
Ex D2 GS
Ex V8 D2 GS
Ex D3 S
Ex D4 GS
Club skip ya lockers !!!
Club BAS remote heater !!
Club Duratrac
Club Phillips DRL
Club Prospeed Rack Mk 1
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Club Sankey
Club RLD spare wheel protector
15th Nov 2017 9:14 am
Pelyma
Member Since: 06 Jan 2005
Location: Patching, Sussex
Posts: 15496
HSE Lux was the top standard model, with some special editions that matched or exceeded this.DS3 TDV6 HSE - Silver with Alpaca (old one) Gone
DS3 TDV6 HSE- Silver with Alpaca (new one) Gone
D4 HSE Lux - Montalcino Red Gone
Porsche Cayenne V8 Diesel S
15th Nov 2017 9:36 am
Iguana
Member Since: 14 Oct 2013
Location: 'Sunny' Zomerset
Posts: 9402
Only one spec engine in the UK for D4 and that's the 3l diesel, As mentioned HSE Lux was the top of the range in the later years, but depends on your budget.
Try and got for an 8 speed gearbox if you can, not 100% sure of when they came in though (2012?)
I have a 2015 model and after 2 weeks of ownership I'm getting 28mpg, my 2008 D3 manual was getting about the same/
Towing a caravan will cut that 28 mpg probably down to the low 20's, although I only tow a camping trailer with mine, and see the 28 mpg drop to 25 mpg
I think your budged is important, once you know this, then you can start to look for the spec etc that you can afford Iggy/Ieuan
Current LR =
2015 RR Sport Autobiography
&
1992 Land Rover Defender Camper
- Gone but not forgotten:
MY10 D4 GS
MY05 Disco 3 'S'
MY14 FL2 HSE manual in Blue
MY15 Disco 4 HSE Lux in Santorini Black
MY08 Disco 3 SE manual in Buck Blue
1960 Series 2 88" (No idea why I sold it!)
15th Nov 2017 9:59 am
Jubbly
Member Since: 20 Nov 2016
Location: Stourbridge
Posts: 401
Not quite true, there is a 2.7 option on the earlier 59 reg cars GS spec and commercial.Jaguar I-Pace HSE imminent.
Gone HSE with Flappy Paddles. IID BT tool. RLD Spare Protector, Altox GPS.
15th Nov 2017 10:37 am
waterbuoy
Member Since: 26 Oct 2013
Location: Argyll
Posts: 2862
And I think there is a difference of about 10bhp between the SDV6 and TDV6 engines, but am not sure which way round the difference is! The latter engines are slightly more powerful.Currently 2009 Disco 3 SE, 2013 MY D4 HSE and 2016 D4 SE
Previously:
TD5 Defender 110 CSW (230k miles)
300TDi Disco 1 (289k)
4 RR Classics (300-350k each, 2 manual, 2 auto)
110 V8 CSW (220k)
S3 109 hi cap pickup (ex RN)
S2A 88 Safari SW with lpg conversion (bloody lethal)
15th Nov 2017 4:34 pm
Bazalab
Member Since: 08 Jul 2016
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 80
I have D4 65 plate with 17.5 k miles and on very recent 110 mile round trip on A roads, no motorways on that trip, I had 36.5mpg on return home.
With twin axle caravan (1710kg) on 55 mile run from dealer to home on Mainly Motorway and A roads averaged 22. Can't ask more from a 2.6 ton vehicle.
15th Nov 2017 7:39 pm
Gazzdid
Member Since: 14 Nov 2017
Location: Cannock
Posts: 158
Thanks all for your replies!
I will have to see what xmas sets me back and how many pennies I can put away but budget wise will be around the 15k mark. I think this may put me out of the 2012+ 8 speed price bracket.
I guess, as you say, budget will dictate what is available and I'm certainly not expecting a HSE lux but just wondering what specs are out there. I'm a man of gadgets
These MPG figures are better than I expected especially towing.
So what are the things to look out for/check on them? obviously service history & receipts a must. check the air suspension is working, any others apart from the usual with any car?
15th Nov 2017 10:28 pm
Robert SausageTrousers
Member Since: 09 Aug 2015
Location: Cornwall
Posts: 466
Warranty, warranty, warranty!
The most important element of your purchase IMO.
15th Nov 2017 11:28 pm
tonyv6power
Member Since: 29 Oct 2017
Location: Herts
Posts: 3
d4 fuel consumption
Am 2 weeks into owning a my14 D4 SE. 18000 on the clock with two years full LR warrenty.
Just completed 400 mile trip towing twin axle van......mainly M1, M6, M56 with mile upon mile of 50mph speed restrictions.
mpg returned 20.7miles......without towing just over 30mpg.
Almost identical to my 3.2lt manual Shogun.
But the quality of ride in the Disco compared to the Shogun was superb.
16th Nov 2017 9:51 am
BJT
Member Since: 16 Nov 2017
Location: Staffordshire
Posts: 92
I have just been through the D4 buying process and hope I got it right.
In the end I went for a one owner, FLRSH, 2014 HSE (good spec without breaking the bank) from a LR dealer.
My rational for my purchase was (1) Stop / Start gave me lower tax bracket and slightly better fuel economy
(2) 2 years warranty , having experienced LR extended warranty on a LR RR it was invaluable saved me over £8.5 on a transmission!!. beyond these two points was condition, spec, colour, mileage etc all the typical stuff.
I found that non franchise dealers were not that much cheaper but without the warranty. I would have bought privately if I could have found one with extended warranty or a current LR warranty in my price bracket but I couldn't find one.
Pick it up in about a week looking forward to being back in a LR after number of years in Audi & BMW.
Good luck with your hunt
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16th Nov 2017 11:05 am
robpenrose
Member Since: 12 Jan 2016
Location: Surrey / SW London
Posts: 2136
waterbuoy wrote:
And I think there is a difference of about 10bhp between the SDV6 and TDV6 engines, but am not sure which way round the difference is! The latter engines are slightly more powerful.
I don’t think that’s fully correct. I believe the extra 10hp came with the 8 speed box.
There are 6 speed SDV6 about with 245hp
Current: D4 HSE
Previous: BMW Z4M Coupe
Previous: Land Rover Defender 90 CSW Td5
Previous: Land Rover Discovery Td5 ES
16th Nov 2017 11:58 am
Grianaig
Member Since: 08 Jul 2014
Location: Tyne and Wear
Posts: 1286
My MY2014 has 255hp SDV6 and 8 speed.2014 MY Discovery XS Indus Silver. Sadly gone. Second last LR of forty eight years continuous ownership.
16th Nov 2017 2:10 pm
Gazzdid
Member Since: 14 Nov 2017
Location: Cannock
Posts: 158
Thanks all!
Like I said it wont be until next year but I will let you all know how I get on (hopefully with pics of a shiny LR!)
Cheers
Gaz
17th Nov 2017 8:14 am
Gazzdid
Member Since: 14 Nov 2017
Location: Cannock
Posts: 158
OK so I am getting itchy fingers and finding it hard to wait till after xmas!
Been looking extensively at discos for sale and think I have sussed out what I'm looking for:
In an ideal world:
2011+ (for the more economical SDV engine)
XS or ideally HSE spec
cream leather 2 tone interior (not sure what the trim is officially called)
Side steps (3 young kids and a short a*se missis!)
10 spoke alloys
privacy glass
very interested in reversing cam for hitching up the caravan
comprehensive history & cam belt done etc
As far as colour goes I'm thinking silver or black but not too fussy
I have seen a HSE that ticks all the boxes except side steps. how expensive are these to pick up second hand and how easy are they to fit? I'm assuming they just bolt on?
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