Advertise on DISCO4.COM
Forum · Gallery · Wiki · Shop · Sponsors
DISCO4.COM > Wheels & Tyres

A negative for General Grabber AT3
Post Reply  Down to end
Page 2 of 3 <123>
DG
Site Moderator 


Member Since: 12 Dec 2005
Location: The Gaff
Posts: 50930

Wales 

Lots of expectation v physics in this thread Laughing
  
Post #20070598th Dec 2018 4:46 am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
RRSTDV8
 


Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
Location: Here
Posts: 13030

United Kingdom 

Struggled today on very wet muddy grass on my worn AT3s. In mud and ruts I ended up having to back off a slight uphill climb and have take a different line. Traction control was working overtime and still ended up "stuck". Would new tyres have helped? Possibly.

One problem, I think is that I didn't have room / traction to get up decent momentum. That would probably have seen me through as I made it 70% of the way at low speed.

It's all good learning experience, however. Thumbs Up

I would say that the SDV6 is not as good in such conditions as the TDV8 was.
 Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!" 
 
Post #20074439th Dec 2018 4:15 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Reginald Molehusband
 


Member Since: 17 Nov 2009
Location: West Calder
Posts: 632

Scotland 2016 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 Landmark LE Auto ZanzibarDiscovery 4

And the 2016 D4 with no limited slip rear diff is not as good as the 2009 D4 which did have it.

Thanks for the good info on here folks. I guess unless you're prepared to change the wheels each time the season/journey/surface changes it's going to be a compromise.

To add another improbable variable, I still have the 20-inch rims which came with the car with their Scorpion Zeros pretty much unused (<1000 miles) because I opted for an all season 3PMS in the GGAT3 R19 to avoid having to change wheels twice a year.
Maybe I should just go back to swapping the wheels, get chunky offroaders with 3PMS for winter and use the Zeros for summer.

Rolling Eyes so many choices, so little clue Embarassed
 2016 D4 Landmark SDV6 (Euro6), Zanzibar (late run D4)
2009 D4 HSE TDV6, Bali blue (first run D4)
2007 RRS TDV8 HSE, some blue
.

http://www.lothian4x4response.org 
 
Post #200775710th Dec 2018 1:36 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
RRSTDV8
 


Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
Location: Here
Posts: 13030

United Kingdom 

I'm now thinking about putting some new tyres on soon for the winter (either the GG AT3 or Pirelli AT+ I guess) and then putting the worn GG AT3 back on in the spring - they've got 5mm left on them so good for a few miles more on warm tarmac and seems a waste to bin them early. The newer rubber will be then put back on later next year. Ought to be good for two winters that way.
 Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!" 
 
Post #200777210th Dec 2018 2:02 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Gazellio
 


Member Since: 08 Jan 2011
Location: Chilterns
Posts: 4130

United Kingdom 2009 Discovery 4 TDV6 SE Auto Indus SilverDiscovery 4

Another vote for Cooper Weathermasters as an all round great tyre. I have them on both of mine and prefer the 255/55 r20 to the 255/50 r20. (I have both)
  
Post #200777910th Dec 2018 2:32 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Send e-mail Reply with quote
Reginald Molehusband
 


Member Since: 17 Nov 2009
Location: West Calder
Posts: 632

Scotland 2016 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 Landmark LE Auto ZanzibarDiscovery 4

Yeah RRSTDV8, that's what I'd like to do too but I am a set of rims short and I don't think it's worth the hassle to do without rims for each set of tyres.

I am pretty determined not to repeat the GG AT3 given the shortcomings I have found (not overlooking that I found them generally good overall) and to give me a chance to make a comparison for myself. So I'm going to look for a set of Pirelli All Terrain Plus or Cooper Weathermasters or maybe Duratracs forthwith Whistle
 2016 D4 Landmark SDV6 (Euro6), Zanzibar (late run D4)
2009 D4 HSE TDV6, Bali blue (first run D4)
2007 RRS TDV8 HSE, some blue
.

http://www.lothian4x4response.org 
 
Post #200782110th Dec 2018 5:17 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
PCT3
 


Member Since: 13 May 2017
Location: Kent
Posts: 144

England 2007 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Zambezi SilverDiscovery 3

I opted to down size my rims to 18” and fitted BF Goodrich 265/65R18 KO2s great in mud, going forward not bad on grass if you don’t mind a bit of damage, Censored on side slopes and going down hills, not necessarily the tyres fault though, weight of car and the inability to lock centre diff unless in rock crawl, haven’t had them out in the snow yet, but we don’t get snow in Kent, it snows then compacts through traffic so it’s ice before you can blink.
Good tip carry a good Compressor And deflate your tyres, was marshalling at a sporting car trial Sunday very very slippery, the BFs allowed me to deflate to 10psi went everywhere except side slopes lol
 Discovery 3 HSE 07
Discovery 1, Search & Rescue SE4x4 Responce
Fiat Decato motor home
Mazda MX5 
 
Post #200797711th Dec 2018 7:10 am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Reginald Molehusband
 


Member Since: 17 Nov 2009
Location: West Calder
Posts: 632

Scotland 2016 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 Landmark LE Auto ZanzibarDiscovery 4

You bring up some good points PCT3.

Opening up the question, what tyre pressures do you all run at when off-roading on wet grass and mud, assuming no rocks?

I usually run the car at fully loaded pressures on road, and if off-road looks challenging i’ll reduce that by 10psi.
 2016 D4 Landmark SDV6 (Euro6), Zanzibar (late run D4)
2009 D4 HSE TDV6, Bali blue (first run D4)
2007 RRS TDV8 HSE, some blue
.

http://www.lothian4x4response.org 
 
Post #200831212th Dec 2018 7:51 am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Reginald Molehusband
 


Member Since: 17 Nov 2009
Location: West Calder
Posts: 632

Scotland 2016 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 Landmark LE Auto ZanzibarDiscovery 4

I popped in to Costco Edinburgh yesterday to ask about Duratracs. They said they’re only available online and not in store, and only when the next delivery comes from Goodyear which is due to be at the end of January -ish.
 2016 D4 Landmark SDV6 (Euro6), Zanzibar (late run D4)
2009 D4 HSE TDV6, Bali blue (first run D4)
2007 RRS TDV8 HSE, some blue
.

http://www.lothian4x4response.org 
 
Post #200831312th Dec 2018 7:53 am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
RRSTDV8
 


Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
Location: Here
Posts: 13030

United Kingdom 

I generally don't change air pressures, to be honest. Most of my off road use is short stuff such as popping around filling feeders and checking on pheasants, or visiting sites. Changing pressures in such situations isn't really very practical. Even when spending a couple of days off road such as at Les Comes, I didn't bother changing pressures. Never had an issue with traction out there.

It's only really the wet grass / layer of wet mud on slippery hard mud that causes issues. It's like driving on ice.
 Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!" 
 
Post #200832712th Dec 2018 8:26 am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Reginald Molehusband
 


Member Since: 17 Nov 2009
Location: West Calder
Posts: 632

Scotland 2016 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 Landmark LE Auto ZanzibarDiscovery 4

Yeah, I guess we’ve still got the best machines for the job when all’s said and done.
 2016 D4 Landmark SDV6 (Euro6), Zanzibar (late run D4)
2009 D4 HSE TDV6, Bali blue (first run D4)
2007 RRS TDV8 HSE, some blue
.

http://www.lothian4x4response.org 
 
Post #200860112th Dec 2018 11:12 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
A.J.M
 


Member Since: 31 Oct 2009
Location: Carluke
Posts: 2813

Scotland 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Zambezi SilverDiscovery 3

Interesting for the Duratrac Costco info.
I’m waiting for the deal to come back so I can buy tyres again.

As for your issue. I run Duratracs all year round. Have done for almost 6 years and 85k.
I don’t have the money to consider 2 tyres so I picked what I thought was a good all rounder for my needs.
  
Post #200874413th Dec 2018 2:25 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
RH15 LEW
 


Member Since: 20 Jan 2015
Location: Machynlleth
Posts: 90

Wales 2015 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 HSE Lux Auto Santorini BlackDiscovery 4

Duratracs loaded ready to be fitted tomorrow. Will have two part worn GG AT3s available Whistle Whistle


  
Post #200911614th Dec 2018 4:15 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Reginald Molehusband
 


Member Since: 17 Nov 2009
Location: West Calder
Posts: 632

Scotland 2016 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 Landmark LE Auto ZanzibarDiscovery 4

Nice! Where did you get those may I ask? Are they 19 inch?
 2016 D4 Landmark SDV6 (Euro6), Zanzibar (late run D4)
2009 D4 HSE TDV6, Bali blue (first run D4)
2007 RRS TDV8 HSE, some blue
.

http://www.lothian4x4response.org 
 
Post #200924114th Dec 2018 9:52 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
RH15 LEW
 


Member Since: 20 Jan 2015
Location: Machynlleth
Posts: 90

Wales 2015 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 HSE Lux Auto Santorini BlackDiscovery 4

tyreleader.co.uk £35 per tyre cheaper than my fitter! There 20’s.
  
Post #200924614th Dec 2018 9:59 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Display posts from the last:  
Post Reply Back to top
Page 2 of 3 <123>
Jump to:  
Previous Topic | Next Topic >


Posting Rules
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum



DISCO4.COM Copyright © 2004-2024 Futuranet Ltd & Martin Lewis
DISCO3.CO.UK RSS Feed - All Forums

DISCO4.COM is independent and not affiliated to Land Rover.
Switch to Mobile Site