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Pete K
 


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I don't think we ever agree on gearbox oil quantities Laughing
  
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Well, if you feel lucky just have a 2 litre catch pan under the gearbox.

I always weigh what comes out and measure what goes in, so I'm pretty confident with the normal range.

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Laughing yeah your right.

You would get a lot out with a simp drain.
  
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Pete K wrote:
ZF is the manufactures oil and expensive.

Not sure about that MILLERS stuff. It seams compatible with too many gearboxes for my liking


with the greatest respect ZF doesn't manufacture oil they make transmissions Thumbs Up Thumbs Up
  
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Just after a bit of advice before i start, im happy to get underneath and drain sump, if i do this then go for a run then re empty the sump rather than using the pipe going into the cooler whilst running the engine is this considered a double flush
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make sure the temperature is in the correct range Thumbs Up
  
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Hi Geoff i read it needs to be between 40-50deg is this correct
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I thought you started testing at 30 degrees C and when at 40 degrees checked no more could be added then close fill hole. Obviously with engine running. This is for 6 speed D3. D4 is I think higher temp. temperature. If you stop filling when too cold, you may overfill and opposite when too high. Difference can be as much as .6 ltr.
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Thanks for the tips that's this weeks job sorted
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geoff. wrote:
Pete K wrote:
ZF is the manufactures oil and expensive.

Not sure about that MILLERS stuff. It seams compatible with too many gearboxes for my liking


with the greatest respect ZF doesn't manufacture oil they make transmissions Thumbs Up Thumbs Up


I would put money on it they spec the oil additives/mix/package etc to match their transmissions exactly.
  
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Pete K wrote:
ZF is the manufactures oil and expensive.

Not sure about that MILLERS stuff. It seams compatible with too many gearboxes for my liking


well it lists it in applications

ZF: 02F, 04D, 03D, 09, 11A, 11B, 14A,14B,16L, 17C, 4HP 20, 6HP 26 (ATF M1375.4)
  
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Has anyone any experience of this oil?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ATF-M1375-4-Lif...3306876897
  
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The Jaguar guys with the same ZF gearbox like it.

Only problem is, its red, but they have been through it, and its meant to be ok for the ZF6
  
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I’ll just offer my layman’s thoughts on identifying by color... which is not to do it. The dye is there to identify it as ATF, typically, so someone doesn’t pour the wrong stuff by mistake in the wrong place.

I’ve still got the BG Universal ATF 312, which has a red dye in it but according to the vendor meets or exceeds the specifications for the LR ATF. Seems to work fine 30000 km driven after the mega flush.

Specs at http://bglsi.com/bgproducts_Oklahoma_Texas..._Chart.pdf

So it comes down to whether you a. trust the vendor to list the correct specs, b. buy the LR branded special fluid, c. Buy something which you think is identical (the rumor that LR juice is really Ravenol..) but again you’re actually trusting the vendor.

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As a caveat, most gearbox rebuilders will NOT approve a warranty claim on a recon 6HP box if it has red oil in it, regardless of meeting required spec or otherwise...
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