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Neil R
Member Since: 09 Dec 2004
Location: wakefield/West Yorkshire
Posts: 179
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Hello
I was reading LRO mag today and there was a artical on the turbochips upgrade, so i phoned them and enquired about the details
the ecu remap is £475 plus vat and about another £40 for a K&N air filter all fitted this would give the d3 about 236-240bhp 2- 2.5 seconds off the 0-60 time, 5mph on the top speed and 100lbs ft torques extra. the engineer i spoke to had done 2 of these and he said the results are stunning, so after about of uming and arhing i called him back for more details, it takes an hour to do and as i was giving him unsure signals he said they would do the upgrade and if i was not happy with it or did not think it was worth the money they would reset it all back to standard at with no charges.
try before you buy
so I am off to go do this on Friday.
Has anyone else done this before ?? any advice or am i doing the wrong thing.
ps www.turbochip.com
Neil
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 25th Jan 2005 12:22 am |
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johndelorean
Member Since: 25 Jan 2005
Location: London (naturally, with a 4x4)
Posts: 11
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Tempting when one looks at the Overfinch alternative costs - if it does what it claims to.
A few questions:
Does it affect the warranty?
Does it need to be declared for insurance purposes?
Can it be used on the diesel engine?
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| 25th Jan 2005 12:56 am |
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Martin
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Member Since: 06 Nov 2004
Location: Hook Norton
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Neil,
Would be very interested if you could do a quick mini-review of it when you have it done, also how good Turbochips are, etc... would that be ok? Basically just let us know how it all goes 
Presumably this is the TDV6 upgrade that was advertised in LRO?
Martin
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| 25th Jan 2005 1:16 am |
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FamilyMan
Member Since: 10 Jan 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 119
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Sounds interesting, do you have a link? 2005 TDV6 SE Silver/Black Manual + Alpine
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| 25th Jan 2005 9:03 am |
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Neil R
Member Since: 09 Dec 2004
Location: wakefield/West Yorkshire
Posts: 179
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Family man the link is in my original post,
My car is a TDV6 and this mod does not affect my warrenty, even some dealers have been using them on Range Rover diesels.
The mod is 100% undetectable so it would be upto you to decide if you tell you insurance company I am my premium increase is £75 pa
I am unsure if i really need any more power but I can try it out for nothing and if it is as good as they say it may just stay with me.
Neil www.turbochip.com
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| 25th Jan 2005 10:40 am |
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Big Al
Member Since: 20 Jan 2005
Location: Wiltshire UK
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Hi,
I used to have my D2 chipped, and it gave very impressive results and my D2 was much faster, more fuel efficient, had a lot more torgue and generally a better car to drive than standard. You need to inform your insurance company of the modification, and in my case it only cost an additional £10, plus some of the chip companies also give you a further engine warranty free for the year after chipping. My dealer reccomended it too, and it did not violate the LR warranty either, so in all it was well worth the £500 spent. I too also had a K&N uprated airfilter, however I experienced more than my fair share of problems with a 50p mass flow sensor, which I can tell you was most annoying. This tiny sensor was located in one of the airflow hoses and signalled how much air was being drawn into the engine. When it went wrong and anywhere past 3.5k rpm, the engine would suddenly cut out and then restart once more. I wasn't a nice experience and over the lifespan of the car, I had under LR warranty at least 12 of these fitted.
I'm not so certain that the D3 really needs chipping. It is a very good engine, and for the time being at least, and I would seriously reccomend anyone considering a chip to wait until at least 6k miles, when the engine has loosned up a little. Maybe on my D2 I fitted it too early, literally 3 weeks from new. These chips are very good, and in partiucular increase the torque more than raise the horsepower, so fast starts and also towing greatly benefit. Another option might be in lieu, or in addition, of chipping to change all hoses in the engine bay to neoprene style (dont expand) and fit a large intercooler. I'm going to wait before playing with my D3, but look forward to seeing other results.
One point which I would particularly would like to see is if the fule consumption drops after chipping, as per my D2. Currently my D3's running at 23 mpg, and I would like to see circa 26-28 mpg
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| 25th Jan 2005 2:39 pm |
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FamilyMan
Member Since: 10 Jan 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 119
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Oops...missed that....thanks.
Sounds brilliant, 190 to 230 BHP...wow. Please let us know how it goes, I'm very interested.
The problem with the MF sensor has been experienced elsewhere with aftermarket air filters such as KN. It's down to the oiling of the filter that fouls this sensor rather than the increased airflow. This has been widely reported on Porsche forums that I've frequented for my Boxster. Stick with the standard setup.
Does anyone know how difficult it is to swap out the chip? I'm wondering if it's a wise move to keep the old chip for when its serviced etc.. just in case they void any waranty issues. 2005 TDV6 SE Silver/Black Manual + Alpine
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| 25th Jan 2005 2:41 pm |
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Neil R
Member Since: 09 Dec 2004
Location: wakefield/West Yorkshire
Posts: 179
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Hi
Its not a chip it is a revised copy of the original ecu software, this is completely undetectable and the service guys cant see it the only way they would know is driving it and as they tend to poodle around on a test drive all should be ok
Family man whats all this about the air filter can you explain more please
Cheers Neil
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| 25th Jan 2005 2:58 pm |
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Big Al
Member Since: 20 Jan 2005
Location: Wiltshire UK
Posts: 143
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I understand the term is chipping even if no actual chip is inserted/replaced. The ecu remapping seemed to be a doddle and I can confirm that LR dont see that the vehicles been chipped.
It's very interesting to find out that the MF sensor problems stem from the oiled airfilter, I would have never thought of that. If all others find that they achieve better fuel efficiency and performance, using the standard airfilter and chipped, I may get my D3 chipped after all, as the MF sensor was a pain in the ass when it went, over and over.
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| 25th Jan 2005 3:09 pm |
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FamilyMan
Member Since: 10 Jan 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 119
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Neil R wrote:Family man whats all this about the air filter can you explain more please
Cheers Neil
Free flow filters and others like it use a fine mesh to trap foreign objects rather than a paper element in an airbox preferred by manufacturers. This mesh comes oiled and often requires re-oiling if its removed and cleaned. The oil catches the finer particles but does get sucked into the engine fouling the MF sensor. Some have reported this happening within days while others get away with it for longer, but sooner or later it causes the engine management to report an engine failure and you have to get it replaced. It's a lot of hassle and expense for a £40 bolt on upgrade.
Regarding the chipping, I know its software mapping but wondered if the chip management box itself was easily unplugged. Usually there is a black box with a bus lead. It will obviously cost more to buy the whole unit rather than just upgrade the mapping but it would provide better peace of mind during a service. If there was a major warranty issue they may check the car over more closely. 2005 TDV6 SE Silver/Black Manual + Alpine
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| 25th Jan 2005 3:55 pm |
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Neil R
Member Since: 09 Dec 2004
Location: wakefield/West Yorkshire
Posts: 179
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well i am really put off this idea now. I might cancel the appointment and wait for another guinepig to do it.
Neil
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| 25th Jan 2005 4:09 pm |
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Ecosse
Member Since: 07 Jan 2005
Location: Grampian, Scotland
Posts: 889
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Come on Neil - give it a go!! Lots of us are watching with interest to hear your experience of it!
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| 25th Jan 2005 11:31 pm |
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FamilyMan
Member Since: 10 Jan 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 119
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I think the chipping trial sounds good, just make sure they record the standard mapping....may be worth asking them for a CD burn of it for safety sake. The power gains claimed seem worth the look-see. The filter swap would only have given you negligable gains of 2-5 bhp at best anyway so I wouldn't loose sleep over that. 2005 TDV6 SE Silver/Black Manual + Alpine
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| 26th Jan 2005 9:24 am |
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Neil R
Member Since: 09 Dec 2004
Location: wakefield/West Yorkshire
Posts: 179
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Hi
Just had a call from the performance dealer and Friday is off the man from Turbochip has a problem with his software, but this should be sorted out soon, they also said when it get done they will bring their D3 that has been done so i can test it before they touch mine.
They are doing a video and photo shot tomorrow for a magazine to report on this upgrade so keep your eyes peeled in the usual LR mags
Cheers neil 2005 Java Range Rover Sport 2.7 TDV6 HS (GONE)
Stormer wheels, SC Grills, Tow pack,PTI,Adaptive lights,Useless coolerbox (GONE)
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| 26th Jan 2005 12:43 pm |
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Big Al
Member Since: 20 Jan 2005
Location: Wiltshire UK
Posts: 143
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Hi all,
I've had a chipped D3 all day today, my dealer has one of thier fleet already chipped and let me have their D3 for the day.
I have to say that it is very impressive, and with this particular unit, it can be turned on and off, once the engine is off, from inside of the engine bay. With the engine chipped the D3's certainly not sluggish, in fact very spritely, and litterally roars as you pull away or change speed suddenly. It was a dream, and actually since they've have it chipped it gives better MPG than their non-chipped D3's. Cruising along the engine noise was more noticeable than normal, however nothing overwhelming, and in general something that I will certainly be keeping an eye on. In summary the chipped D3, is spritely and very quick to pull away but I'm starting to go soft in my "old age=35! " and like the refined acceleration of the normal D3. I will consider chipping if the performance drops on my car but currently dont really need the acceleration, I just put it over into sports mode for overtaking.
I'm still concerned of any long term effects chipping has. I'll be keeping this car, it's good and can accommodate any my junk/family and large dog. It's a pleasure to drive now, and since I've only done 1500 miles I'm going to wait circa 6-10k miles before even considering the chip. As diesels age they loosen up and obtain better MPG so I'll wait for now. However if anyone wants to take on a BMW X3/5 diesel then get the chip. I'll find out the make of the chip I tested and post on.
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| 29th Jan 2005 7:38 pm |
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