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And you wonder why people go vegetarian - horrible
23rd May 2018 11:49 am
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Know where your food comes from, the trouble is we all want cheap food and wonder why animals are raised in appalling conditions.DS3 TDV6 HSE - Silver with Alpaca (old one) Gone
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23rd May 2018 12:21 pm
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Quite right pelyma, for most people it's about price, and while they might be horrified by those scenes I doubt they would choke on their bacon sarnie.==================================
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23rd May 2018 12:43 pm
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23rd May 2018 1:03 pm
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This was supposedly a Red Tractor approved farm... blaming consumers for such behaviour is just a diversion... These people would do the same to someone on a Saturday night no doubt.
Wanton brutality to animals doesn't save money for the producer/farmer, arguably the opposite.
These people are just - there's no financial motive.I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
23rd May 2018 2:31 pm
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You're right the demand for cheap food doesn't mean cruelty but it does result in factory farming where welfare standards are inevitably lower, working conditions for the staff are not too great and they have little interest in the animals nor the motivation to care for them, creating the ideal environment for this sort of thing to occur. Not saying cruelty doesn't happen on normal farms I know it does but deliberate cruelty of this nature is more prevelant in this type of unit.==================================
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23rd May 2018 2:49 pm
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Many moons ago when I was a kid I did some work on a pig farm and have to say it was an old decrepit place but the pigs were well looked after the number one rule with pigs is water water and more water let them run out of water at your peril, did I mention water?
23rd May 2018 2:49 pm
Pelyma
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The article talks just as much about indoor rearing as the actions. If you can afford better staff they are less likely to take their frustrations out on the animals. Is their any difference between this and a 10 week old chicken that can’t walk due to the speed it is reared at, or indeed the obese dog that can’t walk without severe pain because its owner feeds it too much?
The consumer is to blame for far more cruelty than that dished out by cruel thugs and they hold the key to welfare improvements, those 2 chickens for a fiver come at a real cost to millions of birds.
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23rd May 2018 2:50 pm
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Glad to see the little have been sacked. One wonders how long they have been acting like that before the issue was raised with their employer, however.
I helped with pigs at a friend's farm back in my youth. They can be very stubborn animals and are difficult to control when they are grown and wanting to go THAT WAY but a pitchfork and kicks to the head? Really?
I shared a couple of Gloucester Old Spots a few years ago with a friend. Kept them in an outside enclosure with a "hut". As a farm manager, my friend was able to arrange to take them to a local abbatoir. We took care of them, fed them well, rubbed their backs when they were itchy etc. Probably the best pork I've ever eaten. But it wasn't the cheapest, that's for sure!
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23rd May 2018 2:58 pm
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Sacked !! they should have been kept on and treated the same way as the pigs by someone twice their size. I hope they are prosecuted and jailed - but I bet they won't they'll probably get a suspended sentence and banned from keeping pigs for twelve months b ds .
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