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gstuart
 


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Plasterboard fixings

Hope this finds everyone well

May i pick ur brains plse , ref plasterboard fixings , going to fit some flat bars on the wall in order to fit some part bins, however this particular wall has 75mm of celotex insulation , normal metal fixings are useless and wondered if anyone may have some suggestions plse

Pic are the ones I normally use in non insulated plasterboard , think in this case the plaster board only looks around 10mm thick and they simply won’t bite properly

Spent ages Looking at others but because of the insulation and see some fixings spread out the insulation I think will prevent them performing as they should

Am wondering if I might have to drill right through the insulation into the brickwork , using something like 125 x 8mm screws with brown plugs

Many thks as always


   
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Always use these

https://www.screwfix.com/p/easyfix-hollow-...pack/5643p
  
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Have you considered this type?

https://www.toolstation.com/rawlplug-inter...ngs/p56222

I'd expect the slow compression forcing out the Jaws would provide sufficient force to push back the insulation.

That said, if the plasterboard is very thin you might be better off trying to pick up on the studs?
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fix a 12 mm ply board over the area you want bins..fix it thro the lot into brickwork...use TORX masonry screws as the attached tool stion link...no plugs needed....you wont shift it.....make sure you use correct size drillt bit...
  
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If you are talking victorian/Edwardian era house then I would go back to the brickwork.
Alternatively, as mentioned, plywood fixed through to brickwork, but as I have used threaded rod and epoxy on a few occasions now, that would be my favoured method of fixing the ply.
  
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Many thks to all as that’s extremely appreciated Bow down

Wondered that about some ply , its a 60s built house

Will get some of those fixings , if they don’t work can easily use them elsewhere , then move onto fitting the ply

Thks again so much Thumbs Up
   
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i bought a pack of the type in the screwfix link ... and was persuaded to get the rawlplug fixing tool too.

don't bother. the genuine tool breaks sooo easily it's untrue. I also have a "cheap'n'nasty" variant and it's miles better.

if you're only doing a few, probably not worth getting the tool and just take your time getting the fixings to bite ... which will be easier in any case if you're also adding a sheet of ply.
  
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If you are putting a piece of ply up mark out where you want the parts bins to be (larger ones at the bottom or on one side) before you put it up and it will save time once it's up...
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I have the setting tool. Blue handle. Works well but I don't know if its genuine or not. Ignore the cheaper fixings and go with the branded option.

Just reread your OP. Once and if its start to bite into the rigid insulation you'll be fine, as it will cut into it. Need to check plasterboard thickness. Sometimes that type of board has 9.5mm plasterboard which is weedy. I suspect based on the thickness of the insulation it will be 12.5mm

Also if the parts bin is heavy then external patressing, as others have said, to spread the load. Glue and pin the corners.
  
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Chaps, we're forgetting it's Gary we're dealing with so revised advice is ...

knock whole house down and build as you'd really like it.

but don't trip over any crap useful stuff you've left laying about.


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Just find your studs and and mark then and as said some ply or OSB screws through in to your studs , that’s the only way I would do it Thumbs Up
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Chemical cement and threaded bar? Drill into brickwork, apply chemical cement, insert bar, wait for it to set and bob's your uncle. It's used a lot for gun safes so won't budge once its set.

If you fixed a sheet of mdf to the wall, you'd then be able to fix what you want, where you want. Thumbs Up
   
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stew 46 wrote:
Just find your studs and and mark then and as said some ply or OSB screws through in to your studs , that’s the only way I would do it Thumbs Up


The best and easiest option Thumbs Up
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@hardware , brilliant , will take the idea from the 16 th century builders just drill through to the outside wall and fit threaded bar from outside / in Whistle

Wall doesn’t have any studs , plaster board was fixed by dob and dab direct to brick

Will double check the plasterboard thickness, think I have a small section left in my tardis ( shed) Laughing

Have been looking at 18mm marine ply as I’m wondering should give me a better fixing , will be a row of x 4 with around 80 - 100 x bins, all small for mainly connectors and god knows what else I’ve collected from the last 30 x years

Drives me nuts not being able to find things straightaway , plus also need to sort out some drawer/ cabinets for my tools but that’s another story Whistle

Funny enough used some of the glue / studs for fixing angle brackets to support cold water tanks , must admit do like the idea of that , M8 should be suffice , inc some penny washers for the outside of the boards

Looked at those setting tools and must admit wasn’t going to bother

Starting to get back on my feet so will order some sheets in a few weeks time

Whilst on the tool station web site I came across these , never seen them before , prefer the board idea Thumbs Up

Blimey , apologises , I’m gassing again

Million thks as always Thumbs Up

Ps, hope everyone is keeping safe and well

   
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