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Rear Brake pipe TSB

New parts and method of replacement appeared this week ...basically fitted by taking off exhaust and heatshield.

Quote:
TECHNICAL BULLETIN
LTB00650
25 MAR 2014

SECTION: 206-00
Rear Brake Pipe Replacement
AFFECTED VEHICLE RANGE:
Discovery 3 / LR3 (LA)
Model Year:
2005-2009
VIN:5A000303-9A513325

Discovery 4 / LR4 (LA)
Model Year:
2010 Onwards
VIN:AA513326 Onwards

MARKETS:
All
CONDITION SUMMARY:
Situation: The front to rear brake pipe may require replacement for any reason and has now been made available as a lower level service repair.
Cause: Lower level service replacement part now available. Suggested Customer Concern Code - D7.
Action: Service Only.

PARTS:
LR056967
Discovery 3/4/LR3/LR4 - Brake pipe LH rear
Quantity: 1
LR056968
Discovery 3/4/LR3/LR4 - Brake pipe RH rear
Quantity: 1

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Post #125973227th Mar 2014 8:31 am
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Good news Thumbs Up

I wonder if Land Rover have discovered anti-corroding properties of copper/copper nickel yet or if they are still made from mild steel?

If it's still made of steel, I can't see the point in this. Better off replacing with copper. Whistle
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Not wishing to appear too thick, but am I right in thinking that this is just an easier way of brake pipe replacement to reduce cost, rather than JLR accepting that its a poor choice of materials and replacing them FOC.
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Post #125974527th Mar 2014 9:05 am
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I order brake pipe in 100 rolls at a time, JLR do not have the monopoly on using steel pipe by any means!

What the TSB does is to allow the dealer to make a sensibly priced repair without removing the body

.....like the rest of the trade already does!
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Post #125975127th Mar 2014 9:17 am
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And if they are just replacing like for like then its a waste of time, I would sooner replace with copper pipe, job done then.

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Still have to cut, and flare the steel pipe on the car.

And replace the rusty steel pipe with... steel pipe Rolling Eyes

Think I'll stick to copper pipe Thumbs Up
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Post #125977427th Mar 2014 10:18 am
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Given the comment made here from a customer contact with JLR about oil pumps not being an issue and we are all just panic mongering on the forum perhaps there is nothing wrong with the rusty brake pipes either Whistle
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LR Main dealer recently spliced in copper rear pipes onto my 2009 D3 with a goodwill contribution of over £300 from JLR (ie 2 weeks ago!)
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So there is an issue with rusty pipes? Laughing

Just glad its not my car Whistle
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What are the specs on copper pipe, if I go this route?
Anything special about it?
  
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Some countries do not allow copper/ copper based brake pipe as replacements as there have been failures due to fatigue and believe it or not, corrosion issues. ABS/DSC/TC and HD all put very high loads on brake systems
  
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This is interesting.... JLR dealer didn't offer me the "Technical Bulletin LTB00650" option (on 3rd item below).

Service to a 57 LD3 @ 56K miles

JLR (Taggarts) Glasgow quote of July2014:

7th year service

1. Belts £1800.00
2. Filters and Oil £399.95
3. Front to rear brake pipes burst (leaking) £1,831.28
4. Both front track rod ends worn. £410.54
5. Both front lower suspension arms worn. £1157.35
6. Transfer case control module corroded (required for xy sensor ) £383.20
7. Clutch advisory £1888.60
8. Spare wheel winch seized £186.96

= £8,057.88 Rolling with laughter

Particularly interesting was the £4.74 I was charged (included in item 2) for Screen Wash, despite my topping it up to full prior taking it to them!

Oh nearly forgot.... they quoted another £772.20 for 4 Geolandar A/T-S Tyres, but I opted to fit Cooper Discoverer AT3 via Blackcircle for £504 instead.
 

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I'll do it for half that Whistle Thumbs Up
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Post #131323819th Jul 2014 3:18 pm
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rkscott wrote:
This is interesting.... JLR dealer didn't offer me the "Technical Bulletin LTB00650" option (on 3rd item below).

Service to a 57 LD3 @ 56K miles

JLR (Taggarts) Glasgow quote of July2014:

7th year service

1. Belts £1800.00
2. Filters and Oil £399.95
3. Front to rear brake pipes burst (leaking) £1,831.28
4. Both front track rod ends worn. £410.54
5. Both front lower suspension arms worn. £1157.35
6. Transfer case control module corroded (required for xy sensor ) £383.20
7. Clutch advisory £1888.60
8. Spare wheel winch seized £186.96

= £8,057.88 Rolling with laughter

Particularly interesting was the £4.74 I was charged (included in item 2) for Screen Wash, despite my topping it up to full prior taking it to them!

Oh nearly forgot.... they quoted another £772.20 for 4 Geolandar A/T-S Tyres, but I opted to fit Cooper Discoverer AT3 via Blackcircle for £504 instead.


Taggarts Rolling with laughter say no more!
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Taggarts. Never noticed that part. Lost count of the amount of people who have come to me, from Taggarts after being quoted horrific repair costs.
Most shocking one was over £3000 for front to rear brake pipes, and rear discs pads Shocked

Never seen a quote of over £8,000 though. That would buy a whole Disco 3 Shocked

In all honesty, barring the clutch, you will see plenty of change from £2,000 to do the rest of the work.
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