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NJSS
 


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Remoulds for LR Discovery ?

In another thread (which I didn't wish to HiJack):-

https://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/bfg-ko-ggat3-171930.html

johnlad suggests:-

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Kingpin tracker is same tread as BFG KO2
Available in 255/55/19, it’s a remould though but British made and dirt cheap.


I'm really seeking thoughts about remoulds in general, not Kingpin Trackers specifically.

To declare my position I wouldn't fit remoulds to any of my cars.

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Most airplanes use remould tyres, so do lots of lorries and buses. Since 2004 they've had to comply with the latest ECE regulations so I'd say they were safe to use.

I remember hearing horror stories about people leaving the treaded part of the tyre on the road or them separating at speed. I don't see that as an issue any more.
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If that was really true we would not still see the remoulds lying on the sides of our mainroads then
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Have you stopped to see whether they were remoulds? Were they run at correct pressures? Was there any sign of the tyre having a fault from hitting a kerb?

I agree that there are lots of bits of tyres on the side of the roads, but they aren't necessarily all remoulds, nor are they all new virgin tyres.

Any tyre that is well maintained will last a long time, however any tyre that is mistreated could be at risk of failure.
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This site seems to suggest none are suitable for D4/4:

https://www.tyresdirectuk.co.uk/product-ca...-2004-2009

Kingpin website seems to confirm:

http://www.kingpin-tyres.com/tyres/re-treaded-tyres/4x4/
  
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TigerRecovery wrote:
Most airplanes use remould tyres, so do lots of lorries and buses. Since 2004 they've had to comply with the latest ECE regulations so I'd say they were safe to use.

I remember hearing horror stories about people leaving the treaded part of the tyre on the road or them separating at speed. I don't see that as an issue any more.


Working on HGV’s all the tyres I defect are usually remoulds. Same as 99% of the blowouts needing mechanical attention. Worst one I had in recently was a truck that had brand new Michelin’s removed for TTS (owner sold on the Michelin’s to make money back) had a blow out on the midlift. It took out, the middle arch, rear arch, middle air bag, abs sensor, brake pipe, adblue tank, batteries, and the adblue module. Total cost was around £8000.
  
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I've always taken the view that it is daft to skimp on cheap tyres to save a few quid. They are the bit that attach you to the road in all weathers and terrains.My family's safety has always come before my wallet.
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One of the things I notice with truck remoulds is the weight of the bloody things compared to first life ones, I know unsprung weight isnt the biggest issue on a truck!

The wear rate is pretty phenominal as well.

They are better than they used to be, but the main issue is you dont know what sort of life the tyre carcass had before it was remoulded, easy supermarket work or the hell hammered out of it off road.
 

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Moo wrote:
I've always taken the view that it is daft to skimp on cheap tyres to save a few quid. They are the bit that attach you to the road in all weathers and terrains.My family's safety has always come before my wallet.


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Moo wrote:
I've always taken the view that it is daft to skimp on cheap tyres to save a few quid. They are the bit that attach you to the road in all weathers and terrains.My family's safety has always come before my wallet.
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Tyres are the only bit between you and the road, remoulds just not worth the risk.
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Courtesy of Retread Manufacturers Association.


Does anybody actually use retreads?
Yes, nearly half the truck and bus tyres on the road in the UK have been retreaded and operate very safely. In fact, all the major tyre manufacturers without exception manufacture their tyres for multiple lives, meaning they are designed to be retreaded. Indeed many of them also operate their own retread plants in the UK.

Retreads are also used on passenger cars throughout the UK – not only for standard vehicles but for high performance vehicles and even for motorsport.

Retreads are also used in aviation and are retreaded many times. Every commercial airline uses retreaded tyres and in fact over 90% of all aircraft tyres are retreads.

Can you drive at normal speeds on retreads?
Yes, of course. The idea that retreaded tyres can not be used at normal road speeds is a complete myth. All passenger retreads (with the exception of a few specialist winter and off-road tyres) are speed rated at least to S (180 kmh – 112mph) and many are rated as high as V (240 kmh – 149 mph)

Can you use retreads in winter?
Absolutely. In fact, retreaded winter tyres have been particularly successful across Europe. If you are looking for extra safety in the winter weather but feel that switching to new winter tyres is too much of an expense, then why not use a set of winter retreads. They offer excellent performance and superb economy.

How can we be confident of the quality of retreaded tyres?
Retreaded tyres have been manufactured to the requirements of a British Standard (the BS au 144 series) for many years. However, two new EC Regulations relating to the “type approval” of retreaded tyres (ECE Rulation 108 for car tyres and 109 for commercial vehicles tyres) became mandatory in the UK with effect from January 1st 2004.

The two new Regulations, which identify uniform conditions for the approval of individual retreading facilities, effectively means that retread producers have effectively become ‘licensed’ operations, a move which is has made a considerable contribution towards ensuring that the quality, integrity and performance of retreaded tyres are, at the very least, on a par with that of new tyres.

What about all the rubber we see on the side of motorways. Doesn’t all that come from retreads?
No. This is just as likely to come from a new tyre. The fact is that the majority of tyre failures are the result of improper tyre maintenance. If tyres are not regularly checked for damage or under/overinflation there is a risk that they might fail and it doesn’t matter whether they are new tyres or retreads.





I have used remoulds in the past on my cars and commercial vehicles and never had any problems with them.
I tend not to use them now because they are not as easy to come by now and some of the decent Chinese new tyres are just so cheap it is unbelievable.
If they are good enough for a 330 Tonne 747, who am i to argue.
  
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Obvious question but how much are remoulds?
   
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Part worn tyres are often a good choice. Most are high quality and only been discarded due to people having more money than sense,
Otherwise deciding to do a whole matching tyre upgrade despite old tyres having thousands of miles of wear left on them.
I haven't used a part worn but my options are always open
  
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