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Red Merle
 


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Laughing Laughing
 Three very nice FL2’s and two superb Disco 4’s to date 👍
With them both sadly out of production, I’ve defected to a FF 😁

 
 
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fat bloke
 


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It's also a shame LandRovers engines are not on par with BMW or Audi with the wide scale of small to large engines and refined ?
  
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Terrible shame Rolling Eyes ...but the JLR have only been producing their own engines since 2012 ...I guess the Germans have a bit of a head start. Laughing
  
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Red Merle
 


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That and the fact that Audi are owned by the biggest motor manufacturer in the world and are able to buy in from that wide range of engines.

On the plus side, JLR haven’t needed to resort to deception to get emissions approval Thumbs Up
 Three very nice FL2’s and two superb Disco 4’s to date 👍
With them both sadly out of production, I’ve defected to a FF 😁

 
 
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Must admit I’m pleasantly surprised with the SD4 240. A bit rough when cold, slight hesitation when pulling away but that’s been present on most auto LRs regardless of engine manufacture. It’s smooth and quiet once warmed up and quite perky. Pretty pleased so far.

Fuel economy, according to the car, 44mpg.
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jimbg
 


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fat bloke wrote:
It's also a shame LandRovers engines are not on par with BMW or Audi with the wide scale of small to large engines and refined ?


Apart from the law suits over all the failed BMW N47 engines! Thumbs Up

LR are not that bad, the odd crank failure aside... Shocked Shocked

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/cons...e-failures
  
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But the crank failures are Ford engines - one of the reasons JLR wanted to build their own.
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Red Merle
 


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jimbg wrote:
fat bloke wrote:
It's also a shame LandRovers engines are not on par with BMW or Audi with the wide scale of small to large engines and refined ?


Apart from the law suits over all the failed BMW N47 engines! Thumbs Up

LR are not that bad, the odd crank failure aside... Shocked Shocked

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/cons...e-failures


A friend had one of these fail on his 4 year old 520d M Sport. It was his umpteenth BMW. BMW’s response was:

“Book it into your dealer and have them strip the engine, at your expense. If they say it’s a manufacturing defect, we’ll talk.”

ie if they say it isn’t a “manufacturing fault” then the cost of the strip down, reassembly and ultimately, the repair is down to the customer. Even if it turns out to be a manufacturing defect, they were still only offering “to talk”, no commitment to actually pay!

With between 80 and 90,000 miles on it, he sold it to a trader, a trader “specialising in problem cars” for just £4,000. When the trader collected it he said that he’d recently collected a BMW X3 direct from the dealer, having paid the owner nothing but simply having settled the dealers labour charges for dismantling the engine!!

He’s since bought a used Jaguar XF 2.2d and he’s well chuffed with it Thumbs Up

And I won’t even start on the camchain issues on BMW’s “Prince” engine in the R56 Cooper S...

So, let’s forget about the wonder of BMW engines, or the broad range of off the shelf VW engines fitted to Audi’s. JLR have done a good job building an engine range and factory from scratch and have stood by their Ford sourced engines far better than BMW would appear to have stood by their own N47 units.
 Three very nice FL2’s and two superb Disco 4’s to date 👍
With them both sadly out of production, I’ve defected to a FF 😁

 
 
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jimbg
 


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Red Merle, exactly right.

There is a long thread on the RRS forum about the crank failures and to read it and some of the responses you would believe that your car was bound to fail imminently.

JLR are not as bad as they are painted sometimes. You can get tunnel vision when you spend a lot of time on a forum!! Thumbs Up
  
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At 218,000 miles I’m happy with my old buses reliability. I’ve owned and run BMW and Audi’s alongside my Discovery. I’ve got shot of them all and kept my old bus which is coming up to her 13th birthday. She has been to most stupidly reliable car ever. Thumbs Up
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