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Tripe wrote:
I can't readily find any Disco5 sales numbers for Oct 2017,


October figures

  
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I'm not surprised really, too expensive, looks ugly, lost it's 'niche' and there are now many other better and cheaper alternatives for a big family/luxury SUV

Reality check LR - luxury buyers will go for a Velar/RRS or FFRR unless they need 7 seats

Where are the big selling lower end products? There is a huge market out there in the £20-30k price bracket that other brands are devouring
  
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CFB wrote:
I'm not surprised really, too expensive, looks ugly, lost it's 'niche' and there are now many other better and cheaper alternatives for a big family/luxury SUV

Reality check LR - luxury buyers will go for a Velar/RRS or FFRR unless they need 7 seats

Where are the big selling lower end products? There is a huge market out there in the £20-30k price bracket that other brands are devouring


What he said.............. times two. No more Discos for me. Next one will be a T6 (for Commercial use).
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The UK sales figures almost reflect those stated by the SMMT:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-41884203
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CFB wrote:


Reality check LR - luxury buyers will go for a Velar/RRS or FFRR unless they need 7 seats



The Velar is way overpriced and not selling well.

Over on the RRS forum there were lots of owners thinking it might be their next car util they found it was more expensive than a RRS when configured.
  
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The Velar is way overpriced and not selling well.


really Confused ...looking pretty healthy to me
  
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I'm not persuaded by the argument that D5 sales eat into RRS and Velar. They're different beasts.

Personally, my current inclination is to look for something other than a D5 when I eventually get shot of my D4. I can't get away with the look of the back end and it's over-priced (though to be fair most current LR products are overpriced IMO).
  
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Not sure I understand people’s obsession with the D5 sales figures.

The D5 was never going to out sell the D4, given the increase in price. Also LR have just jacked up the price by about £3k.

That said though I’ll be looking to sell mine pretty soon, looking at BMW 530d touring or maybe just the 520d, seems to be good deals. £8k dealer contribution on the 530d. I don’t need the bulk of a Disco. LRs prices are getting too high and the quality just doesn’t match it, not impressed with my D5 at the moment, not what I expected for £54k. The Velar IMO is way overpriced, I kitted out an F-Pace and a Velar to similar specs, the Velar was about £17k more. Is the RR badge really worth that?
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Surely LR are interested in profit not turnover, just because the numbers of units are lower it doesn't mean the profit is.
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Funny to see the once-derided RRS now being the best selling proper* LR product.


* Proper as in fully capable. The Evoque and DS are sadly lacking in some key areas.

Interesting also that the lowest capability products are the best sellers in the Evoque and DS. I guess that is one reason why LR don't worry about the moans of the traditionalists.
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The low spec Evoque and DS are the best sellers because they have low CO2 so make it onto company options lists

Hence my earlier comment about the big void of lower end choice from LR, they are going all out for high end which is a shame as I'd prefer them to be offering a good mid band product (e.g. Defender replacement) that is more affordable and slightly less luxurious albeit it doesn't need to be hard-core off-road.
  
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J77 wrote:
Not sure I understand people’s obsession with the D5 sales figures.

The D5 was never going to out sell the D4, given the increase in price. Also LR have just jacked up the price by about £3k.

That said though I’ll be looking to sell mine pretty soon, looking at BMW 530d touring or maybe just the 520d, seems to be good deals. £8k dealer contribution on the 530d. I don’t need the bulk of a Disco. LRs prices are getting too high and the quality just doesn’t match it, not impressed with my D5 at the moment, not what I expected for £54k. The Velar IMO is way overpriced, I kitted out an F-Pace and a Velar to similar specs, the Velar was about £17k more. Is the RR badge really worth that?


Noted today BMW recall affecting 1m cars, serious fire risk 🔥 so not just Land Rovers with issues then.
  
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Yeah, cars affected between 2006-2011.

There’s a lot to like about the D5, but just a few things that’s taking the shine off it at the moment.
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