Member Since: 11 May 2006
Location: Off again! :-)
Posts: 72785
I did a 2,500 mile trip from N Norway back to home after my D3 died, comparing the D4 system and GoogMaps side by side. LR system constantly wanted to route me on much longer routes, like by ~100 miles a day more and, most annoyingly, wouldn't accept me choosing another route, it kept trying to force me back to what it though was best. I knew the routes and knew the best way to go, which was what GoogMaps chose every time, with downloaded maps to work when I didn’t have mobile coverage. The satnav in my D3 06 HSE was rubbish, it was no better in my D4 11 HSE but at least there were better options.
The car I’ve just bought (Karoq SE) doesn’t have inbuilt satnav but no point in paying a wadge of cash to get it, it has CarPlay so it has GoogMaps. Sorted.
OK peeps don’t like Google or mobile phones but an old iPhone from eBay, a mount and a 3-2-1 three sim gives you something that knocks the LR offering completely out of the arena.
D3, excuse the mess:
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D4:
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14th Jul 2020 8:52 pm
Discoveringcomfort
Member Since: 16 Sep 2015
Location: Berkshire
Posts: 637
gareth71 wrote:
FWIW... Tomtom's definition of "lifetime" in the context of updates and support isn't what you and I would think of as being "lifetime".
You might be forgiven for thinking that they mean 'as long as the device is still alive'. Nope. What they mean is 'the lifetime of the product as a current model' - so once the device is no longer current (which won't be that long, given the rate at which technology evolves) they don't want to know any more.
I understand that this would be annoying but totaly normal in the tech area. Everything advances or you would still have seperate devices for a phone, camera, voice recorder, calendar etc. New chipsets mean old software is no longer compatible for new devices needed for new features etc. There is a limit to how many peaole you pay to support an outdated product that no longer provides income to pay them.Series 1 V8
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15th Jul 2020 6:11 am
gareth71
Member Since: 10 Apr 2016
Location: North-east Wales
Posts: 547
I'm not referring to firmware updates - I understand that once a product reaches end-of-life those will eventually cease. But the promise of 'lifetime map updates' which turns out to not actually mean 'lifetime' in the sense of 'as long as the product you've bought remains alive and useful', when a map update is a comparatively simple thing which could be rolled out for EOL products alongside current ones - that's what annoys me with Tomtom.
15th Jul 2020 12:19 pm
Motolab
Member Since: 18 Oct 2019
Location: Sleen
Posts: 1815
End less debate i am afraid... as you seem to be annoyed anyway regarding TT. the words "Life time" are indeed very debatable, i agree BUT.. as are "carbon" , "heavy duty"", super strong, HQ, etc. in a lot of cases
but almost all other Sat nav's (not apps, but hardware) do have a very quick end of life... the LR ones, but also many many others, you need to buy new maps every year.. if you want recent one's and stop making them rather soon anyway...
TT does updates 4 times a year included, and the TomTom Rider 440 i have here allready 5 years old, still recieves them 4 times a year.. when they stop making maps for it, it will be far more updated than most of the fixed systems who are from the same manufacturing year...
i have nothing to do with Tomtom by the way... i like honest claims like you do and dislike un honest claims, like you do... but in reallity regarding updates, a lot of more expensive brands do a lot worse job for a lot more money...Best regards
Harold
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