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shawn
Member Since: 23 Aug 2005
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hi all
i went out today to check lots of land that i shoot over, this required me to go down various farm tracks to get to some fields. a lot of the tracks are just mud/grass and yes we have had some rain i know but these tracks were slipery and the tyres were sinking probally about 2 inches down. the problem i had was as soon as i had to go up any kind of slight hill i just kept getting stuck and had to find another way around. yes i have only got road tyres but surley the d3 should be better than this. i tried different terrain response programs but it was no better. in the end i got fed up went home and fetched my short wheel base pajero with mud terrain tyres on it and never got stuck once not even a glimpse of getting stuck i even tried the pajero in normal 2 wheel drive where the d3 got stuck and it romped up the hill no problem. was it just the tyres then and would the d3 be as good as the pajero with mud terrains on it ( i don,t think so) i have never got the pajero stuck ever i have had a couple of very close times but as soon as it feels like i am stuck i stop engage rear diff lock and out she goes. what do you lot think
cheers shawn bali blue disco 4 with rear dvd's, privacy glass, pre heat system, heated steering wheel, full size spare, piano black trim, ipod cable, 20 inch wheels and i love it loads more than my TDV8 RRS, KTM 250 EXC 2 Stroke for the real off road stuff
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 8th Feb 2006 10:07 pm |
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Smarticus
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At a guess, was the ground very firm (possibly even frozen) beneath the surface layer of mud ? If that is the case then the D3's weight and road tyres would explain why the traction available was 2/3rds of bog all. Basically the car just aquaplanes on the mud = no forward motion. The lighter Pajero with some deeper treads with teeth on the tyres would not suffer in the same way.... Disco 4 TDV6HSE
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| 8th Feb 2006 10:15 pm |
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Gareth
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Did you switch the DSC off? If you did not, and it was very slippery, then the DSC senses the wheels spinning and cuts the engine power to almost nothing just when you need it.
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| 8th Feb 2006 10:17 pm |
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shawn
Member Since: 23 Aug 2005
Location: At the top of the hill
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the ground was not frozen under the top layer but it was very sort of slimmey. the d3's wieght will not of helped i suppose. the pajero is very light as it is also a convertable with rear seats removed, never thought of that 
shawn bali blue disco 4 with rear dvd's, privacy glass, pre heat system, heated steering wheel, full size spare, piano black trim, ipod cable, 20 inch wheels and i love it loads more than my TDV8 RRS, KTM 250 EXC 2 Stroke for the real off road stuff
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| 8th Feb 2006 10:20 pm |
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shawn
Member Since: 23 Aug 2005
Location: At the top of the hill
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Gareth wrote:Did you switch the DSC off? If you did not, and it was very slippery, then the DSC senses the wheels spinning and cuts the engine power to almost nothing just when you need it.
 i never knew you had to turn the dsc off you are absolutly correct the d3 did loose ALL POWER just when i needed it most, mine is a tdv6 auto
cheers shawn bali blue disco 4 with rear dvd's, privacy glass, pre heat system, heated steering wheel, full size spare, piano black trim, ipod cable, 20 inch wheels and i love it loads more than my TDV8 RRS, KTM 250 EXC 2 Stroke for the real off road stuff
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| 8th Feb 2006 10:22 pm |
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Gareth
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The key is to switch off DSC, but go easy on the throttle. It will possibly slew around a bit, but you should be able to drive it through, and keep it moving.
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| 8th Feb 2006 10:34 pm |
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shawn
Member Since: 23 Aug 2005
Location: At the top of the hill
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yes gareth you are probally right i think some of the problem was i could not keep the momentum going, once the d3 started to slow down that was it because i never had any power
cheers shawn
i am tempted to go and have another go tomorrow but i don't want to get stuck whilst on my own, as farmers are not the happiest of people  and i would not want to have to ring my farmers up to tow me out, after all i am supose to helping with pest control not hindering them with getting stuck on a mini off roading expadition 
shawn bali blue disco 4 with rear dvd's, privacy glass, pre heat system, heated steering wheel, full size spare, piano black trim, ipod cable, 20 inch wheels and i love it loads more than my TDV8 RRS, KTM 250 EXC 2 Stroke for the real off road stuff
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| 8th Feb 2006 10:39 pm |
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Pelyma
Member Since: 06 Jan 2005
Location: Patching, Sussex
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Shawn, I did exactly the same got hopelessly stuck in a grass paddock (with an audience ) You need to learn to use the gismos first then you will be utterly amazed. The RRS guys have fallen for this and try to drive like a normal 4X4, which you will eventually do once you know which switches need to be on. DS3 TDV6 HSE - Silver with Alpaca (old one) Gone
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| 8th Feb 2006 11:08 pm |
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10forcash
Member Since: 09 Jun 2005
Location: Ubique
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did you dial in grass-gravel-snow?
together with DSC off, it'll help enormously  Think you need to check out AndrewS's event
spent all last weekend getting stuck (intentionally ) a lot of it comes down to reading the ground as well as the capabilities of the vehicle. The weight can work both for and against depending on the terrain
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| 8th Feb 2006 11:10 pm |
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shawn
Member Since: 23 Aug 2005
Location: At the top of the hill
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tfc
i did try grass/gravel/snow and mud and ruts and high and low range but never at any point did i turn the dsc off i never knew about that, thing is when you start getting sweaty around the neck and find your 40K motor drifting side ways towards a ditch you tend to just want to get back to good ground
shawn bali blue disco 4 with rear dvd's, privacy glass, pre heat system, heated steering wheel, full size spare, piano black trim, ipod cable, 20 inch wheels and i love it loads more than my TDV8 RRS, KTM 250 EXC 2 Stroke for the real off road stuff
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| 8th Feb 2006 11:21 pm |
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10forcash
Member Since: 09 Jun 2005
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tell me about it 
Still, nobody died despite the lack of professional instructors
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| 8th Feb 2006 11:24 pm |
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shawn
Member Since: 23 Aug 2005
Location: At the top of the hill
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10forcash wrote: Think you need to check out AndrewS's event
tfc
where is this event held i have found it on the events page but not sure where that is
cheers shawn bali blue disco 4 with rear dvd's, privacy glass, pre heat system, heated steering wheel, full size spare, piano black trim, ipod cable, 20 inch wheels and i love it loads more than my TDV8 RRS, KTM 250 EXC 2 Stroke for the real off road stuff
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| 8th Feb 2006 11:31 pm |
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AndrewS
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Shawn
The D3 is a complex beast. However it is a very capable machine if set it up for the right conditions. 8) The skill in driving off road in one of these beasts is to understand what is happening and selecting the correct driving modes. Once you have sussed out the correct commands for the conditions and drive accordingly, it is un-stoppable well just about un-stoppable. In the Beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
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| 9th Feb 2006 12:05 am |
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simon
Member Since: 11 Jan 2005
Location: Shropshire
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mmm tell that to Slimer that next time he's trying to turn around in a field
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| 9th Feb 2006 1:59 am |
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