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Dazz360
 


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Right I’ve spoke to the garage today and they say they’ve checked the suspension and all is ok so they tracked it and the play in the steering wheel was acceptable as they’ve seen a lot worse! So I told them I’m not happy with the rack and that’s why I wanted everything checking so it can only be the rack. They said that’s fine and what ever the out come they will re check the tracking free of charge Thumbs Up
I’ve took the rack of my other D3 that feels great in the steering and fitted it to the problem D3 and I must say it’s better but I believe I still have a smaller amount of play still so the only thing left I haven’t changed is the upper steering column as the rest from the track rod ends up is new
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Globetrotter448
 


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Is not the upper part of the column a single piece so play would be movement in the wheel fixing to the column - nut not tight Embarassed
  
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Dazz360
 


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The upper column had a cv too and the steering wheel bolt was torqued up
 Metal auto sump & fluid change (3 hrs)
LR door puddle projectors (10 mins)
Tinted Bonnet wind deflector (10 mins)
All Intercooler pipes and Tbolts (2hrs)
3 injectors replaced so far (30mins)
Sunroof drain pipes both sides 2.5 hrs)
Rear discs, shoes,pads,callipers,flexi hoses, rigid brake line, n/s upper hub carrier bush and rear n/s upper arm (13hrs over 2 days) 
 
Post #206147816th Jun 2019 9:58 am
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rrhool
 


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Mine has done the 'tight' steering thing since Sunday. Ordered a new, genuine LR lower column which arrived today. When I opened it and felt the new UJ, it had a click, or notch on one of the bearings. It feels like the bearing has been 'brinelled' during assembly. Anyway, I decided not to fit it, and to ask for an exchange. Hopefully will get the new one tomorrow.
 Richard


D3 SE 2007. Triumph 2.5Pi 1973. Ferguson TEA20 1948.



Discovery 2 4.0 ES 2001- Gone
Discovery 1 300Tdi ES '95 - Gone
Range Rover Classic '79 - Gone 
 
Post #206218618th Jun 2019 9:25 pm
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rrhool
 


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Replacement genuine LR lower column delivered today, much better Very Happy

Although I'm sure at some point, that notchy, faulty part will end up on a customers car.
 Richard


D3 SE 2007. Triumph 2.5Pi 1973. Ferguson TEA20 1948.



Discovery 2 4.0 ES 2001- Gone
Discovery 1 300Tdi ES '95 - Gone
Range Rover Classic '79 - Gone 
 
Post #206232819th Jun 2019 11:22 am
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rrhool
 


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Issue with new lower steering column

Went out this morning to fit the new lower column, genuine LR part.

All going very well, old one came off easy enough, new one went back in easily. So far so good I thought.

Did up the upper bolt, turned the steering to get to the lower bolt, started to do it up.
It didn't seem to be getting tighter, almost felt like the thread was stripping, so I pun an M8 nut on the back just in case. Still wasn't gripping the steering rack shaft properly, so tightened a bit more, then the bolt sheared off Shocked

Took it all off again to find the lower split clamp deformed to the extent that the thread and the spotface the bolt head bears on were completely out of line.

I think the bore of the clamp has been machined wrongly, not allowing it to clamp the shaft properly.

Any one else experienced similar?


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 Richard


D3 SE 2007. Triumph 2.5Pi 1973. Ferguson TEA20 1948.



Discovery 2 4.0 ES 2001- Gone
Discovery 1 300Tdi ES '95 - Gone
Range Rover Classic '79 - Gone 
 
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Dazz360
 


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Wow Shocked
 Metal auto sump & fluid change (3 hrs)
LR door puddle projectors (10 mins)
Tinted Bonnet wind deflector (10 mins)
All Intercooler pipes and Tbolts (2hrs)
3 injectors replaced so far (30mins)
Sunroof drain pipes both sides 2.5 hrs)
Rear discs, shoes,pads,callipers,flexi hoses, rigid brake line, n/s upper hub carrier bush and rear n/s upper arm (13hrs over 2 days) 
 
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Globetrotter448
 


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QC obviously out the window, so on with the old whilst waiting for replacement
  
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rrhool
 


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All good today, third shaft fitted today, no problems. Very Happy
 Richard


D3 SE 2007. Triumph 2.5Pi 1973. Ferguson TEA20 1948.



Discovery 2 4.0 ES 2001- Gone
Discovery 1 300Tdi ES '95 - Gone
Range Rover Classic '79 - Gone 
 
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Dazz360
 


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I’ve been checking and I’ve found my rear right bearing has a bit of play in it, no way would that contribute to the play in the steering? Could it ?
 Metal auto sump & fluid change (3 hrs)
LR door puddle projectors (10 mins)
Tinted Bonnet wind deflector (10 mins)
All Intercooler pipes and Tbolts (2hrs)
3 injectors replaced so far (30mins)
Sunroof drain pipes both sides 2.5 hrs)
Rear discs, shoes,pads,callipers,flexi hoses, rigid brake line, n/s upper hub carrier bush and rear n/s upper arm (13hrs over 2 days) 
 
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Dazz360
 


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Re: Issue with new lower steering column

rrhool wrote:
Went out this morning to fit the new lower column, genuine LR part.

All going very well, old one came off easy enough, new one went back in easily. So far so good I thought.

Did up the upper bolt, turned the steering to get to the lower bolt, started to do it up.
It didn't seem to be getting tighter, almost felt like the thread was stripping, so I pun an M8 nut on the back just in case. Still wasn't gripping the steering rack shaft properly, so tightened a bit more, then the bolt sheared off Shocked

Took it all off again to find the lower split clamp deformed to the extent that the thread and the spotface the bolt head bears on were completely out of line.

I think the bore of the clamp has been machined wrongly, not allowing it to clamp the shaft properly.

Any one else experienced similar?



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Mine was the exact same issue but mine was a britpart
So bit the bullet and got a genuine one with a higher tensile bolt M8x35 washer and a nylock nut problem solved after a really nice steering specialist looked at it and pointed it out to me. The play was Minimum and couldn’t be seen moving that’s why I thought it was the rack
 Metal auto sump & fluid change (3 hrs)
LR door puddle projectors (10 mins)
Tinted Bonnet wind deflector (10 mins)
All Intercooler pipes and Tbolts (2hrs)
3 injectors replaced so far (30mins)
Sunroof drain pipes both sides 2.5 hrs)
Rear discs, shoes,pads,callipers,flexi hoses, rigid brake line, n/s upper hub carrier bush and rear n/s upper arm (13hrs over 2 days) 
 
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rrhool
 


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Got a refund from warranty (Land Rover) for the failed new shaft. I did wonder if they'd try and reject it. I was going to suggest they try fitting it to a car!
 Richard


D3 SE 2007. Triumph 2.5Pi 1973. Ferguson TEA20 1948.



Discovery 2 4.0 ES 2001- Gone
Discovery 1 300Tdi ES '95 - Gone
Range Rover Classic '79 - Gone 
 
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Dazz360
 


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Good result Richard Thumbs Up means I can get on with the rest of the list now Rolling with laughter
 Metal auto sump & fluid change (3 hrs)
LR door puddle projectors (10 mins)
Tinted Bonnet wind deflector (10 mins)
All Intercooler pipes and Tbolts (2hrs)
3 injectors replaced so far (30mins)
Sunroof drain pipes both sides 2.5 hrs)
Rear discs, shoes,pads,callipers,flexi hoses, rigid brake line, n/s upper hub carrier bush and rear n/s upper arm (13hrs over 2 days) 
 
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