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SteveNorman
Member Since: 14 Oct 2005
Location: Somerset
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Depends on the codes set & if they are classed as permanent or intermittant codes.
If you had replaced nothing, noted & cleared the codes, then you may have found nothing came back for a while.
For example, I had a D3 in yesterday with codes for Turbo underboost, EGR excess flow, & injector no 5 reach max adaption limit.(no mileage data on when they were set. I checked the EGR requested & actual positions (all ok), test drove & boost pressure ok, checked live data on injector adaption, all seem good. So shall I throw a turbo, EGR valve & injector at it, or shall I reset the codes, & wait for the codes to re-appear, & see which comes back in what order, as I really need more evidence than just a code before I spend loads of money on parts & labour.
Your codes? were they set at the same mileage? were they intermittant or permanent? what happens if they were noted & reset then redriven? The CAN bus code, were any other ecu's affected? It seems strange that another fault code would appear after renewal of a component. You really need to find the answers to these questions before you spend any more money 
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Steve
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 17th Apr 2010 7:06 pm |
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Renton
Member Since: 13 Jan 2009
Location: Somewhere in the middle
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They cleared the first fault code and the same one did come back right away as permanent. Same for the 2 valves.
I am on a road with no return. They got the compressor and valves working again on Friday but couldn't get it on normal height. So I can't drive my car. I think/hope they are close to the real cause of this all.
It's just disappointing that there aren't any knowledgeable LR workshops around here who can do a bit more the changing oil and parts.
There was some prediction that the Northsea would disappear in the future?? I can think of one advantage 
Thanks Steve. 
They will work on my car Tuesday again. I will let you know how that ends. CLUB ILLEGAL CAR WASHERS
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| 17th Apr 2010 7:59 pm |
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northernpar
Member Since: 23 Sep 2008
Location: Aberdeenshire
Posts: 30
 
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Get them to bell out all the wiring associated the EAS control to check for broken wires/bad connections. I had a fault where the front right was sitting 2cm lower than the other 3 corners and if I tried to raise/lower the vehicle the suspension warning message advising normal height only would appear instantly. This would typically clear when the vehicle was restarted but would randomly pop-up when driving. The independant I took it into found a broken wire at/near the connector under the nsf arch liner (the one that also is affected by corrosion in the wires). Dont' know specifically which wire but he stated that it was one of the larger wires and mentioned the feed to the front valve block which would explain why the front wouldn't level or raise/lower.
Personally, if I get another suspension fault issue the first thing I will do is prove the integrity of all the associated wiring loom and connectors before taking it in for further investigation. Will be a pain to do but will save a lot of heartache in the long run.
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| 18th Apr 2010 11:18 am |
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BrumLee
Member Since: 07 Mar 2008
Location: West Midlands
Posts: 1360
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Mine has the dreaded amber suspension fault light come on and standard hieght only (althought it's sitting on the bump stops now). Did have a message about compressor cooling down, but nothing since. I'm going to try the relay bridging tomorrow to see if compressor kicks in.
Anyone had the 'Raising' 'Standard' flashing up alternatively on the 4x4 info? There's also the normal hieght and raising flashing on the dash  Faultmate MSV2 EXTREME
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| 18th Apr 2010 11:48 pm |
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10forcash
Member Since: 09 Jun 2005
Location: Ubique
Posts: 16534
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sounds like a problem with the filter / dryer, the ports are too close together and develop a fracture over time, parts are about £42
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| 18th Apr 2010 11:51 pm |
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BrumLee
Member Since: 07 Mar 2008
Location: West Midlands
Posts: 1360
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Cheers Ian, I'll be having a look tomorrow. Can't hear anything, no compressor noise or any hissing, but then again I've never heard the compressor when its been working. Faultmate MSV2 EXTREME
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| 18th Apr 2010 11:54 pm |
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10forcash
Member Since: 09 Jun 2005
Location: Ubique
Posts: 16534
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A spray bottle with diluted washing-up liquid will confirm, you obviously need to remove the lower compressor cover first
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| 19th Apr 2010 12:00 am |
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simon
Member Since: 11 Jan 2005
Location: Shropshire
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And you all do it again 
Cheers for the support 
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| 19th Apr 2010 12:06 am |
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BrumLee
Member Since: 07 Mar 2008
Location: West Midlands
Posts: 1360
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simon wrote:And you all do it again
Cheers for the support
Removed the relay as described by Wiggs and bridged the connections. Not a sound from the compressor  Checked the 5A and 60A fuses for suspension in the engine bay fusebox and seem ok. So I guess the compressor has given up Faultmate MSV2 EXTREME
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| 19th Apr 2010 1:21 pm |
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BrumLee
Member Since: 07 Mar 2008
Location: West Midlands
Posts: 1360
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Checked 60A fuse with multimeter and it had blown. Tried another fuse and it blew with the relay terminals 3 and 5 bridged 
Had a good secondhand and brand new updated compressor arrive today. So not wanting to cause any damage to the new compressor I connected the secondhand unit, fitted another fuse and bridged the relay terminals. Compressor burst into life which shows the original one must have burnt out or siezed. Connected air pipes and charged the air tank giving short one minute bursts with the compressor, then raised the suspension. Put everything back as it should be, suspension faults disappeared from the dash 8) Great I thought, but the compressor doesn't switch off, so obviously that's why the original unit burnt out 
Anyone had this before? I can use the D3 now but I'll charge the air tank each day if it needs it as it's lost no air after a short journey and four hours standing in 'Standard Hieght' Faultmate MSV2 EXTREME
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| 20th Apr 2010 5:11 pm |
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Bodsy
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Member Since: 06 Nov 2006
Location: In the Clubhouse
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This any help?
http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic46737.h...or+running
Link 10 (60A) - Compressor supply
Fuse 3 (5A) - Feedback to the ECU, indicating that the Compressor Relay has successfully operated
Fuse 35 (5A) - Ignition Supply to the ECU
Did you multimeter the Fuse 3 too? Bodsys Brake Bible
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| 20th Apr 2010 5:32 pm |
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Renton
Member Since: 13 Jan 2009
Location: Somewhere in the middle
Posts: 1718
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Update: been a week now since I left it at the workshop. And still not found the problem 
They more or less got pinpointed to where the problem must be in the wiring. I've got a headache by now.
To make myself feel better I bought a new toy. Different topic....... CLUB ILLEGAL CAR WASHERS
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| 22nd Apr 2010 8:57 am |
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BrumLee
Member Since: 07 Mar 2008
Location: West Midlands
Posts: 1360
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I stripped the old compressor yesterday and found the piston crank bearing had broken up and two ball bearings had jammed the motor, which then burnt out a couple of windings. This is what had blown the 60A fuse. Been running with the second hand compressor for the past few days and all seems ok.
Hope you get your sorted soon Renton. Faultmate MSV2 EXTREME
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Hantek 1008c Oscilloscope
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| 26th Apr 2010 5:53 pm |
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