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camelrock
 


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Taking the dog

Where driving across France later this year and taking the dog with us for the first time. We don’t have a dog guard or anything has he’s a great traveller and just sleeps in the back but do we need a restraint or dog guard ?
  
Post #19505023rd Jun 2018 8:39 pm
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Pelyma
  


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For his sake yes, you wouldn’t travel a child out of a child seat even if they sat still. A dog should preferably be travelled in a cage or at least a guard. In the event of a crash it stops him becoming a canine bullet and gives him some protection should you be rear ended and contained if the car were to have it’s wind smashed.
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Post #19505153rd Jun 2018 9:26 pm
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I thought it was now law that dogs must be restrained while in the vehicle?

Could be wrong
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Also told the same last week but cannot find anything in law to substantiate it.
  
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Pelyma
  


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https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/d...39566.html
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tayaste
 


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I can see it in The Highway Code,

Rule 57
When in a vehicle make sure dogs or other animals are suitably restrained so they cannot distract you while you are driving or injure you, or themselves, if you stop quickly. A seat belt harness, pet carrier, dog cage or dog guard are ways of restraining animals in cars.
   
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Washwipe
 


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Code, not law.

Although failure to comply with the other rules of The Highway Code will not, in itself, cause a person to be prosecuted, The Highway Code may be used in evidence in any court proceedings under the Traffic Acts (see The road user and the law) to establish liability. This includes rules which use advisory wording such as ‘should/should not’ or ‘do/do not’.

http://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/uploads/3/2...-12-04.pdf
  
Post #19505293rd Jun 2018 9:53 pm
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tayaste
 


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I did say code Thumbs Up
   
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lynalldiscovery
 


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Ex cop dog trainer told me you have to prevent the dog getting into the front of the car and distracting/effecting your driving, if they do so and you have an accident theres going to be issues.
Of course abroad it may be different, but if you have at least a gaurd then I would say all is good.
  
Post #19505664th Jun 2018 7:13 am
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James W
 


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Someone I know of got pulled over for speeding and not only got an FPN for that but also a second FPN for driving without due care and attention due to having an unrestrained dog in the back.
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What is the back ?

If that means the back seat then I'd say it needs some form of restraint.

If it means the boot of a D3 then a well behaved / trained dog would be OK without IMO.
  
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IMHO one should NEVER have a dog, or other animal, in the "body" of the car - they should travel in the "boot" area only.

Depending on circumstances my Flatcoat rides in the boot:-

In a TransK9 cage - excellent https://www.transk9.com/; or#
Unrestrained but behind a cargo barrier
Unrestrained but behind a dog guard & cargo area divider

A fabric "folding" dog crate - these are OK but

The first three items have been acquired over 15 years of Discovery ownership, and are all excellent.
I have very mixed views about fabric "folding" dog crates. I take one with me when staying in a hotel, B&B, friends house or gite, so the dog has a "home". The door is normally left open & he prefers to lie in his crate or cage - they just don't last very long - the plastic rods or the plastic "hinges" seem to break after 2 or 3 years use however careful one is.


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sean 471
 


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I have seen loads of drivers recently with their dogs on their laps while driving. In full view so everybody could see them. Just downright stupid
  
Post #19505894th Jun 2018 10:06 am
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James W
 


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Brian_DL13 wrote:
What is the back ?

If that means the back seat then I'd say it needs some form of restraint.

If it means the boot of a D3 then a well behaved / trained dog would be OK without IMO.


It was on the back seat and I believe it was jumping around during the stop, trying to get into the front etc.
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This is what I used in my D4, gave her plenty of air, room to move and didn't distract me when driving.
No longer needed as will not fit my D5.
  
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