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steve_d3
Member Since: 13 Nov 2006
Location: South Africa
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I have read this post somewhere on the www. Does this guy know how to drive a D3 or is he talking C**p? since I am fairly new to the D3, would like to invite comments from you experienced hands. he seems to be saying you have to drive it just below 50 k/h to keep the height above normal???? 
Quote:I have taken the Disco 3 into very rough terrain in Africa. A significant problem, however, is the fact that the off-road height automatically resets to normal height when touching 50kms / hr (what is the trigger point in miles for UK spec vehicles?). The problem is that in many instances, off-road terrain simply has a high "middle man" and one can drive 60, 70 or even 80 km/hr. NOT with the dear Discovery 3, you have to stay below 50 kms / hr (and a chime that constantly irritates you due to being above 40kms / hr but below the magic 50kms/hr). Failing which the car simply lowers resulting in much damage underneath as rocks, gravel, sand etc do their thing. And beware lifting the car back up to off road level more than a hand full of times, the system shuts down, citing "over heating". Land Rover in SA have not commented on my problems. My local dealer says - "thats the way the car is, sorrry for u dear Sir". What a pity, it simply renders the car quite useless for fairly simple off road conditions.
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 16th Nov 2006 10:43 pm |
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d3matt
Member Since: 03 Aug 2005
Location: South Oxfordshire
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Yes, he's correct. At any speed above 40mph, the D3 will drop down to normal height. Matt
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| 16th Nov 2006 10:59 pm |
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10forcash
Member Since: 09 Jun 2005
Location: Ubique
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err... yes, he's correct - to a point, not sure if the km setpoints are correct but they look right... You have to bear in mind that LR are selling to a global market, some more prone to litigation than others....  and will be very conservative with factory suspension lift stability - remember the Merc whatever-it-is that regularly fell over when joiurno's drove them?
Yep, i've drove 110's with suspension lift at 50-70mph, it was a blast but if it had fallen over I (or more likely, my family) wouldn't have been blaming LR because I chose to drive something outside of factory specification. I suspect that all Metzger are doing with their add-on box is allowing the suspension to perform as it did during the pre-production testing, as TC and JE are doing with their engine mods, whilst we choose these mods, we are also takin ownership of the risk that goes with them... 
compressor overheating all the time? unless it's a very old comment, absolute crap
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| 16th Nov 2006 10:59 pm |
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suevite
Member Since: 15 Oct 2006
Location: Surrey
Posts: 69
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I make 40 mph to be a shade over 64 kph!  Don't put it off, go for it!
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| 16th Nov 2006 11:04 pm |
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Slimer
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Member Since: 06 Jan 2005
Location: Last Exit to Nowhere
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It lowers at 30mph (spent a lot of time driving at 29mph in Morocco for some strange reason ) The End
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| 16th Nov 2006 11:11 pm |
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steve_d3
Member Since: 13 Nov 2006
Location: South Africa
Posts: 32
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thanks for the reply...so you are saying (10forcash) that you can have an out of factory suspension lift with the TC superchip and the like? 8)
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| 16th Nov 2006 11:12 pm |
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10forcash
Member Since: 09 Jun 2005
Location: Ubique
Posts: 16534
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Not TC, Matzker - supplied through Outback Import in UK
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| 16th Nov 2006 11:13 pm |
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steve_d3
Member Since: 13 Nov 2006
Location: South Africa
Posts: 32
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thanks again ... 
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| 16th Nov 2006 11:16 pm |
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Slimer
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Spelling corrected..... The End
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| 16th Nov 2006 11:20 pm |
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steve_d3
Member Since: 13 Nov 2006
Location: South Africa
Posts: 32
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It actually makes perfect sense, why would someone want to drive over 50k/h over some very rough terrain????rocks, hiiltops whatever..over 50 sounds too fast anyway...
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| 16th Nov 2006 11:27 pm |
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caverD3
Member Since: 03 Jul 2006
Location: Oberon, NSW
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He's right. The D3 lowers from off road over 50kph back to normal height.
Really anoying 
It is particulary anoying on sand just as you reach the face of a dune the suspension lowers and you plough into the base of the dune.
It is claimed to be a safety feature to stop you rolling the car, but it is still more stable than most 4x 4s it off road height.
I think mantec have a system to allow you tyo choose your own height but it is real expensive.  “There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely gamesâ€
Ernest Hemmingway
D4 3.0 Active Diff, Adaptive Lights, High Beam Assist, Surround Cameras, Privacy Glass.
D3 2.7:Adaptive Headlights,Electronic Rear Diff,ARB Bar,Blaupunkt Speakers,JVC Powered Subwoofer,Removable Snorkel,Mitch Hitch,Pioneer After Market Head Unit,Steering Wheel Control Adaptor,Remote Adjustable Supension Rod System, Taxside Dual Battery System.
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| 16th Nov 2006 11:32 pm |
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Slimer
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I can't really see how the suspension lowering 50mm is going to cause you to plough into a dune? Have you calculated the approach angle with such precision that the minor increase you'd get with the suspension up will make or break the ascent? The End
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| 16th Nov 2006 11:36 pm |
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caverD3
Member Since: 03 Jul 2006
Location: Oberon, NSW
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oops Matzker  “There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely gamesâ€
Ernest Hemmingway
D4 3.0 Active Diff, Adaptive Lights, High Beam Assist, Surround Cameras, Privacy Glass.
D3 2.7:Adaptive Headlights,Electronic Rear Diff,ARB Bar,Blaupunkt Speakers,JVC Powered Subwoofer,Removable Snorkel,Mitch Hitch,Pioneer After Market Head Unit,Steering Wheel Control Adaptor,Remote Adjustable Supension Rod System, Taxside Dual Battery System.
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| 16th Nov 2006 11:36 pm |
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steve_d3
Member Since: 13 Nov 2006
Location: South Africa
Posts: 32
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The problem with all these special add-ons is that it could put the car out of warranty as per the purchase agreement?
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| 16th Nov 2006 11:37 pm |
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caverD3
Member Since: 03 Jul 2006
Location: Oberon, NSW
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IT doen't stop you but it makes the differnce beteen the front riding over or ploghing the sand.  “There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely gamesâ€
Ernest Hemmingway
D4 3.0 Active Diff, Adaptive Lights, High Beam Assist, Surround Cameras, Privacy Glass.
D3 2.7:Adaptive Headlights,Electronic Rear Diff,ARB Bar,Blaupunkt Speakers,JVC Powered Subwoofer,Removable Snorkel,Mitch Hitch,Pioneer After Market Head Unit,Steering Wheel Control Adaptor,Remote Adjustable Supension Rod System, Taxside Dual Battery System.
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| 16th Nov 2006 11:38 pm |
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