Famousfive
Member Since: 12 Aug 2014
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First mod coming up  I've picked up a pair of AFS Cornering Xenon's that I'm hoping to drop in my non-AFS MY09 GS D4. I got AFS 'cause they were a good deal from the bay - I'm not looking just yet to fit the AFS Control unit so i'm hoping for a simple fit.
I know this has been covered a couple of times in various threads (listed below) but thought it might be useful to have a thread of what D4 CCF settings are needed for each different light upgrade type, if possible 
Looking at other threads am I right to believe that the correct CCF settings for this headlight spec are
Xenon Headlights Fitted
Corner Lamps Fitted
Corner Lights Enabled
AFS Disabled
Would I need to change any other wiring to get the Corner Lamps to work (or is it worth just leaving off) and enjoying the Xenon and maybe fairy lights once Parallax33 has got to the bottom the wiring needed 
Referenced threads:
http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic108578.html
http://disco3.co.uk/forum/topic44435.html
http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic116469.html Stolen - D4 Loire Blue
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Famousfive
Member Since: 12 Aug 2014
Location: Southampton
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Ok to confirm. Xenons with AFS and cornering lamps will work in a standard model. Obviously the AFS part wont work without additional wiring and controller but cornering lamps work a treat and the Xenons look great.
If I can do it, anyone can Stolen - D4 Loire Blue
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| 7th Oct 2014 9:44 am |
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discoteca
Member Since: 08 Mar 2010
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Note, the functionality of the cornering lamps is different depending on whether you have AFS fitted or not.
For non AFS:
The cornering lamps are controlled by the left hand steering column multifunction switch with the lighting control switch in the headlamp position and the ignition in ignition power mode 6. The cornering lamps are supplied power via the ignition circuit to ensure that they do not function with the headlamp delay feature. The cornering lamps are deactivated if the vehicle speed exceeds 25 mph (40 km/h).
Only one cornering lamp will illuminate at any one time. If the left hand turn signal indicators are elected on, the left hand cornering lamp will be illuminated and visa versa, providing the vehicle speed and lighting control switch positions are correct. Cornering lamps are disabled when reverse gear is selected.
For AFS:
On headlamps with AFS, the cornering lamp function is as described above for the Xenon non-AFS headlamps. The static bending lamps (which use the same bulbs as the cornering lamps) operate with a steering angle sensor signal which is received by the AFS control module. The AFS control module sends a static bending lamp on request to the CJB which activates the static bending lamp bulb.
The static bending lamp operation is variable with the speed of the vehicle and the steering wheel angle. The static bending lamps illuminate at 0 mph (0 km/h) when the steering wheel rotation reaches 20 degrees. At 43 mph (70 km/h) the static bending lamps will illuminate when the steering wheel angle reaches 10 degrees. The static bending lamps will be switched off when the vehicle speed exceeds 43 mph (70 km/h). The operation of the static bending lamps is controlled by the AFS control module. When the operation parameters of the lamp are reached, the CJB fades the static bending lamp bulb on using a PWM voltage over a period of approximately 2 seconds. When the lamp is switched off, the CJB fades the bulb off by decreasing the PWM voltage.
In essence without AFS they work when the indicators are on and other conditions are met. With AFS they also work depending on steering wheel angle and other conditions are met. Hope this is helpful.
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| 7th Oct 2014 10:47 am |
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Dartanjang
Member Since: 20 Dec 2014
Location: Mountain Strokes
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A little thread resurrection here.
I have just changed from halogen to xenons with AFS and set the CCF settings according to the thread above (I also raised the speed threshold up to 60 km/h). How do I check that the cornering lights work? Do I need to make speed? When the car stands still and I activate the turn signals the cornering light does not light up, I have tried both in neutral gear and in drive with the parking brake on.
I assumed according to the function description for cornering lights earlier in this thread that just activating the turn signal would light the cornering light but nothing happens.
Something that also puzzles me a little is the exact semantic meaning of one of the settings in the CCF. In Genesis there is one named "Cornering Lights Disable". I have set it to Enable, but if one follows the exact meaning of the setting that would obviously deactivate the lights. But before I start to fiddle too much I would appreciate if someone could tell me the circumstances for activating the cornering lights and I can start from there.
The xenons work great, the only problem is cornering lights. I can live without them but it could be fun to make them work now when they are there.
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| 31st Oct 2016 9:00 am |
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Famousfive
Member Since: 12 Aug 2014
Location: Southampton
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hi dj,
there is an AFS thread here that shows an involved install that involves new loom and hardware to get the AFS to work. Without that AFS will not work, ever.
However the cornering lights should work with CCF settings. You are right in that the fact that the Cornering Lights Disable should be set to Disabled i.e. they are enabled. IIRC cornering lights will only work when the wheel angle is turned WITH the indicator on to turn in the same direction and then they will illuminate.
So CCF is
Corner Lamps Fitted: Enabled
Cornering Lights Disable: Disable
Xenon Headlights Enabled
Let us know how you get on Stolen - D4 Loire Blue
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| 31st Oct 2016 10:01 am |
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Dartanjang
Member Since: 20 Dec 2014
Location: Mountain Strokes
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Success. I am very pleased. The hickup was the double negation for Cornering Lights Disable. In this case the boolean algebra gave two negatives producing one positive. So now I have both Xenons and cornering lights working.
It's going to come very handy as I tomorrow am northbound to the mountains and winter arrived here yesterday. Snow tires on and xenons working = winter and darkness is not a problem.
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| 2nd Nov 2016 5:19 pm |
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Admirable
Member Since: 19 Jul 2015
Location: Fife
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I have fitted Xenons with cornering lights. The CCF file shows
Cornering lights 1
Cornering lights 2
both have a yes or no option
Needless to say they are not working, any ideas?
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| 6th Jun 2017 1:28 pm |
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Erea
Member Since: 19 Mar 2012
Location: Munster
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"
I have fitted Xenons with cornering lights. The CCF file shows
Cornering lights 1
Cornering lights 2
both have a yes or no option
Needless to say they are not working, any ideas?"
I guessing its to your D3 you are fitting these. On mine both cornering lights 1 & 2 are yes and xenons fitted is also yes. Have you updated the CCF after changing these settings?
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| 6th Jun 2017 1:50 pm |
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Admirable
Member Since: 19 Jul 2015
Location: Fife
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Yes
EDIT: when it stops raining I'm going to check the bulbs
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| 6th Jun 2017 2:00 pm |
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Admirable
Member Since: 19 Jul 2015
Location: Fife
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Bulbs OK
Still heavy rain so will have to wait for further investigation 
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| 6th Jun 2017 7:42 pm |
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Admirable
Member Since: 19 Jul 2015
Location: Fife
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Checked all connections, not sure if there is a fuse.
What is the best way to check if they are working?
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| 7th Jun 2017 12:39 pm |
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Erea
Member Since: 19 Mar 2012
Location: Munster
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One I updated the CCF options they worked straight away. Engine on lights on indicator on cornering lights come on below 40kmh. But you have to have the light switch switched on fully. Scandinavian lights setting with the light switch switched off, then cornering lights don't com on. Nor do they come on with the hazards on or if it's only the 3 flash indicator.
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| 7th Jun 2017 1:29 pm |
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