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My Electronic Park Brake has:
had NO trouble at all since purchasing the vehicle
42%
 42%  [489]
Been a screamer on one occasion
8%
 8%  [97]
Been a screamer on many occasions
20%
 20%  [232]
Locked on on one occasion
5%
 5%  [65]
Locked on on many occasions
3%
 3%  [40]
Crept forward on one occasion
0%
 0%  [9]
Crept forward on many occasions
1%
 1%  [22]
had a combination of all of the related issues above
4%
 4%  [47]
had a combination of some of the related issues above
13%
 13%  [156]
Total Votes: 1157

Jhartz
 


Member Since: 17 Feb 2010
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
Posts: 2

United States 2008 Discovery 3 4.4 V8 SE Auto BlankDiscovery 3

Had electric brake problems on both my 05 LR3 and the current 08. Bad connector on the 05; dirt on the 08: dealer fixed both.
 current 08 LR3 SE 4.4
previous 05 LR3 SE
02 Freelander V6 
 
Post #605143Wed Feb 17 2010 6:28pm
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Pew1010
 


Member Since: 23 Jan 2009
Location: North West
Posts: 8

England 

Hi,

I have had my Disco 3 (2005) for 12 months now and In that time I have had to have the Handbrake fixed due to sreaming noises and sticking.

The guy at the garage as advised me to get rid because there is a good chance it will go again.

He says the Acuator gets moister, grit, and dirt inside and after a few months begins to seize up and thats what makes the noise.

I love this car and i was just on my way to part exchange it for a Mercedes or BMW but I really don't want to.

Is there any solution to fix this? I can't be arsed to get the thing fixed every 3 months like I have been doing! But I love the car. Apart from this fault its great!

Any solutions would be very much appreciated.
Smile
  
Post #608770Tue Feb 23 2010 5:04pm
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Albourneboy
 


Member Since: 23 Feb 2006
Location: An old Victorian town in the NE
Posts: 1060

United Kingdom 2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Bonatti GreyDiscovery 3

IMHO, the guy at your garage is talking utter drivel. The screaming is not caused by dirt/grit/moisture - it's the clutch slipping because the system is not adjusted correctly and the drive mechanism is over- or under-extending. Sure, grit/mud etc. do play their part but that gets into the brake shoes themselves, not the actuator which I think you'll find is pretty well sealed.

Following a number of reports to VOSA regarding faulty EPBs, Land Rover have concluded that in the majority of cases, EPB problems are being caused by garage techies not adjusting the thing correctly.

You don't say if you take your car to a LR garage but if you do, I'd suggest you take it to another one and get them to do a proper job on it or better still, get TFC to do it for you.
   
Post #609167Wed Feb 24 2010 8:05am
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SueDnP
 


Member Since: 27 Feb 2010
Location: Nottingham
Posts: 4

United Kingdom 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Manual Zambezi SilverDiscovery 3

Hi, can't vote as mine hasn't screamed yet, thankfully.
I have an amber 'park brake fault' warning on mine. It has happened before around 6m ago and the garage scared me by telling me that the park brake could seize on at any time!! scared of driving it now

Is this correct..? If so what would happen....would I go into a spin..?
  
Post #611346Sat Feb 27 2010 12:43pm
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Gareth
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Member Since: 07 Dec 2004
Location: Bramhall
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England 2008 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Zermatt SilverDiscovery 3

I don't think its likely to seize, but if your rear wheels get covered in excess brake dust, or the wheels get very hot on a normal drive, or you experience a sudden 'juddering' sensation when travelling fast then a strip and adjust might be worthwhile.

However, you might just need to recalibrate the xy sensor on the gearbox. The yellow epb warning will display, along with sluggish gear indication in the bottom of the speedometer.

You can try and recalibrate it yourself. Find a long quiet straight road.

1. Enagage low range (makes it easier)
2. Engage reverse and drive in reverse until the R indicates in the bottom of the speedo. Make sure you completely release the clutch and take your foot off the pedal whilst doing this.
3. Enagage 1st and drive until the 1 indicates in the bottom of the speedo, again ensuring you release and take your foot off the clutch pedal.
4. Change to 2nd and repeat,
5. 3rd and repeat, etc. etc.

Do this all the way through to 6th gear.
Stop, neutral, feet off pedals, switch off.

On restart it should be back to normal Cool
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Post #611353Sat Feb 27 2010 1:25pm
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disco_steve
 


Member Since: 25 Aug 2009
Location: Are you sure this is the M5 ?
Posts: 872

England 2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Arctic FrostDiscovery 3

Never heard of a EPB 'coming on' randomly when it feels like it.

Most complain that it does not work when they want it to Whistle

The EPB has a built in system for allowing it to be ised as a emergency brake, but you need to pull up the lever for at least 3 seconds for this to be enabled - it will then put the vehicle into 'emergency brake mode' Shocked

And the vehicle will STOP - as quckly as it can allowing for road conditions etc by utilising the ABS system on ALL four wheels - so it would be almost impossible to 'spin' Wink

I DO NOT suggest you try this, and most who have have ensured they are below 20MPH, and on a quiet road with NO other vehicles behind Shocked
 Never get mad - get even !!

previous vehicles:
04 D2 TD5 - (clocked 189k from new)
52 X-Trail 2.2 SVE
various euro boxes ! 
 
Post #611355Sat Feb 27 2010 1:28pm
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SueDnP
 


Member Since: 27 Feb 2010
Location: Nottingham
Posts: 4

United Kingdom 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Manual Zambezi SilverDiscovery 3

Thank you so much Gareth and disco_steve for your comments...that's very reassuring

Hmm....I'm thinking it's definitely time that I parted company with my current 4x4 garage and am going to give TFC a try as he's been recommended lots on here and is not too far from me Very Happy

I am going to try recalibrating the xy sensor as you suggest..how cool would that be if it works on mine too

Will let you know how I get on...fingers crossed Smile
  
Post #611367Sat Feb 27 2010 1:57pm
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TSR2
 


Member Since: 22 Jul 2008
Location: North Lincolnshire
Posts: 1101

United Kingdom 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Stornoway GreyDiscovery 3

You can take my "no problem vote" off. After the snow and Tong it now screams like a banshee... Stopped using it which really defeats the object of having one.... Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad
 Regards, Trev.
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Post #611369Sat Feb 27 2010 2:13pm
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Buckingham
 


Member Since: 08 Mar 2006
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 926

United Kingdom 2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 S Manual Buckingham BlueDiscovery 3

Have used the EPB in emergency brake mode at over 50mph....and that wasn't in anger...
 nil admirari

835 
 
Post #611407Sat Feb 27 2010 3:28pm
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748scratcher
 


Member Since: 19 May 2008
Location: HULL
Posts: 214

United Kingdom 

Quote:
disco_steve

Never heard of a EPB 'coming on' randomly when it feels like it.


Please see thread below

http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic46215.html

Mine has just had a full chassis loom and a new EPB control module for the EPB coming on randomly, still waiting to get the car back , LR are inspecting it on Mon/Tues it will then have with the dealer 3 weeks!



Andy
  
Post #611702Sun Feb 28 2010 10:11am
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TSR2
 


Member Since: 22 Jul 2008
Location: North Lincolnshire
Posts: 1101

United Kingdom 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Stornoway GreyDiscovery 3

OUCH! Shocked Shocked

Hope its okay when you get it back Andy... Thumbs Up Thumbs Up
 Regards, Trev.
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Post #611703Sun Feb 28 2010 10:13am
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J
 


Member Since: 11 May 2009
Location: Berks
Posts: 160

United Kingdom 2007 Discovery 3 TDV6 XS Auto Cairns BlueDiscovery 3

Bah, mines started to squeal when applied and dealer wants £220 to strip clean and adjust as it's not covered by warranty and it's between services. Not a hope it can wait until the service is due and TFC can sort it prperly!!
 07 XS Cairns Blue
Club RLD Sump Guard
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Club MT/R 
 
Post #621972Tue Mar 16 2010 5:57pm
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met
 


Member Since: 25 Mar 2010
Location: herts
Posts: 105

United Kingdom 2010 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 HSE Auto Zermatt SilverDiscovery 4

is there a poll to reflect whether this affects more Auto cars vs Manual ones????
  
Post #629369Tue Mar 30 2010 12:11am
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Dixie Dean
 


Member Since: 06 May 2006
Location: Halewood
Posts: 112

2008 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Stornoway GreyDiscovery 3
EPB in for fix AGAIN!

Just taken Disco back to dealer for EPB to be fixed yet again. Went into dealers for 2 days last week to have it fixed, often creeps when applied, so as warranty expiration imminent, decided to try and get it fixed once and for all (some hope). Last week left dealer and only got to first traffic lights where I applied the EPB and it jammed on. Had to get LR Assist to sort it (could have done it myself but needed a sledgehammer to assist with getting it fixed for free).

Now in dealer again (where I am sitting doing some work while they try to sort it out. Service receptionist just came to me and said "It's in the workshop and the lad says it not a problem with the Actuator, it's a comms problem, there's no link to the parking brake module". So I said, "Have they noticed the fuse has been removed and is sitting in the driver's cup holder?!?"

Good start eh?

Doesn't bode well does it. Anyone know a dealer who could actually sort this out for me?

PS Ex booby, so trained to apply handbrake every time I stop. So unlike a lot of people (maybe some of whom dazzle me with their foot brake depressed when stopped) I use it religiously.
 2008 D3 HSE Stornoway Grey, Ebony Leather, Tin Tenter  
Post #629433Tue Mar 30 2010 8:51am
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met
 


Member Since: 25 Mar 2010
Location: herts
Posts: 105

United Kingdom 2010 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 HSE Auto Zermatt SilverDiscovery 4

In a manual car can you not either take out the fuse or a wire to the epb and disable it totallyanx just leave it in first or reverse? Assuming you park on relatively flat sufaces???
  
Post #629438Tue Mar 30 2010 9:10am
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