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C6REW
Member Since: 10 Mar 2007
Location: Devizes, Wiltshire
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Hi all,
I think that this belongs here, read on and let me know or move it if not.
On Tuesday I called into the Shell Holywell garage at Chipping Norton. As I pulled in I noticed that diesel was 104.9 a litre. A reasonable amount as I have been paying 107.9 lately.
As I was re fuelling I spotted the price on the pump was 109.9! A staggering amount and although I do not normally take notice of these things I was very cross as you can imagine! Then I spotted it was V Power with all sorts of claims on the advert. A load of old nonsense I thought, just like every other higher priced fuel I have come across.
However! Yesterday with some 60 additional miles since re fuel and having completely forgotten about the fuel I had put in, I set off last evening for a round trip of about 120 miles. Driving steadily I was suddenly aware of what I can only describe as a big improvement in performance. At first I thought it was me, but carried on my way and kept an eye on the performance.
The increase in performance was definitely there and whats more as I pulled away from a junction there did not seem to be a time lag! I have been out again today and can confirm that the time lag is almost negligible. At one point I put it into sport mode and pulled away very quickly.
Finally, I normally get about 21 mpg driving these type of journeys (goes up to 25 - 30 honest!). Well I have 26 mpg at the moment!
I am confident that it is not my imagination and suggest you give it a go.
Regards
Chris
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 Thu Nov 22 2007 12:26pm |
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DiscoDad
Member Since: 06 Nov 2006
Location: Just off the A1 between the M18 & M62
Posts: 2897
 
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I too have used V-power diesel and also the BP ultimate stuff.
I found the vehicle to be smoother and more responsive.
I would use it all the time if I knew of anywhere to find it near me!
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| Thu Nov 22 2007 1:33pm |
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stapldm
Member Since: 11 Sep 2006
Location: Swine Town
Posts: 2302
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Found this for those wanting to try :
http://www.shell.com/static/uk-en/download...format.pdf
Couldn't find an equivalent BP one. Dr. Ian Malcolm:
"Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should."
Transgenic tomato anyone?
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| Thu Nov 22 2007 2:14pm |
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C6REW
Member Since: 10 Mar 2007
Location: Devizes, Wiltshire
Posts: 498
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stapldm wrote:Found this for those wanting to try :
http://www.shell.com/static/uk-en/download...format.pdf
Couldn't find an equivalent BP one.
B***er,
None around me at all!!!
Chris
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| Thu Nov 22 2007 2:23pm |
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DSL
Member Since: 11 May 2006
Location: Heading here ^^^^ :)
Posts: 24237
 
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Not one North of the Border or in S Wales! 
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| Thu Nov 22 2007 2:36pm |
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Guy
Member Since: 05 Jul 2005
Location: Sitting Down, Facing Front
Posts: 1006
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C6REW wrote:
B***er,
None around me at all!!!
Yes, a notable lack of SN postcodes! But, then again, the list doesn't mention Chipping Norton so maybe it's old?
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| Thu Nov 22 2007 4:32pm |
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C6REW
Member Since: 10 Mar 2007
Location: Devizes, Wiltshire
Posts: 498
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Guy wrote:C6REW wrote:
B***er,
None around me at all!!!
Yes, a notable lack of SN postcodes! But, then again, the list doesn't mention Chipping Norton so maybe it's old?
Yes I had spotted that!
Chris
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| Thu Nov 22 2007 4:39pm |
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neo
Member Since: 16 Nov 2005
Location: embedded in the Matrix
Posts: 1191
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Not tried it yet, but certainly the V-power petrol and Optimax before it made a difference, definately smoother running and slightly more responsive.
Just need to check that LR have no issues WRT warranty and BS EN related stuff. The M-Power Express
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| Thu Nov 22 2007 4:44pm |
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dldisco3
Member Since: 21 Mar 2006
Location: Hasselt
Posts: 190
 
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I've got a Shell card, and when I tried the V-stuff I didn't notice a big difference.
At least no difference to justify the higher price tag!!
But I did also once try the Total Exellium one (when I couldn't find a Shell one around) and that rocks!
Never done that 850kms again... 
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| Fri Nov 23 2007 4:00pm |
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SPOTTER
Member Since: 06 Dec 2006
Location: Adrift........
Posts: 3072
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posted elsewhere about V-Power.
It is a bit smoother, less smoke and a bit more responsive 
however managed to post my two lowest ever tank mpg averages on V-Power and as it wasn't due to driving any differently  yes I really am this boring
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| Sat Nov 24 2007 11:22am |
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C6REW
Member Since: 10 Mar 2007
Location: Devizes, Wiltshire
Posts: 498
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A few days on with a little more mileage under my belt and I am still somewhat staggered by the performance increase.
I drive a few vehicles depending on the mood and state of the weather, so it becomes even more interesting when I get into the D3 and differences become even more noticeable.
I still cannot get over the lack of lag at pull off. This fault has been discussed many times on this forum and I for one was certain it had something to do with the memory ability of the gearbox. However, I am now thinking that it may have more to do with the engine clogging up or some such similar technical problem 
Regards
Chris
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| Sat Nov 24 2007 11:29am |
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AndrewW
Member Since: 06 Aug 2007
Location: Saddleworth
Posts: 2289
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Must check this one out. I live near one of the Shell stations; I pulled up to the usual pump only to find it "Not in use". The filler from the pump across the way JUST reached, so I used it, only to find it was V-Power. I had filled an empty tank to the brim - maybe £4 more for the tankful.
I have to say I did not notice any difference, and I am very sensitive to that "lag". I have three locations where I need SAND mode to make an exit from a badly-sighted side-road (and safety here is the main motive for a re-map...)
So next fill will be V-Power. It just takes so long for the tank to empty!!  in comparison to the Subaru (Legacy 3.0 Spec B manual 15mpg and a tarmac-only near-permagrin. Oh, and a 55litre tank - 200 mile range  ).
D3 + V-Power + TorqTune = Heaven 
Andy 06 TDV6 2.7litre (!) SE Tonga Green
AT2s replaced with ATs, Mantec Plate (with three "dings"), BCB rope, Hidden winch (hidden in garage...), Webasto timer (in box), TorqTuned ((tee hee)�), Pogo Speed Camera locator (in case), Traffic master jam warner (in expectation), FT8800, Motorola GM360, INTEK H-520+ (in a tangle), Blackvue FFV
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| Sat Nov 24 2007 11:40am |
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SI 1
Member Since: 19 Jan 2007
Location: York
Posts: 370
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I have always gone out the way too fill my D3 with BP Ultimate Diesel.
I have noticed over a period of time the difference mpg, at the beginning 25mpg, tho now only 7 miles to work, it shows 28mpg, and on a long trip 30mpg and over if Im gentle.
I am paying 110.0per litre in York, which is steep.
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| Mon Nov 26 2007 4:18pm |
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AndrewW
Member Since: 06 Aug 2007
Location: Saddleworth
Posts: 2289
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109.9 in Oldham - standard diesel was 94.9 there, 2 weeks ago 06 TDV6 2.7litre (!) SE Tonga Green
AT2s replaced with ATs, Mantec Plate (with three "dings"), BCB rope, Hidden winch (hidden in garage...), Webasto timer (in box), TorqTuned ((tee hee)�), Pogo Speed Camera locator (in case), Traffic master jam warner (in expectation), FT8800, Motorola GM360, INTEK H-520+ (in a tangle), Blackvue FFV
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| Mon Nov 26 2007 4:26pm |
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10forcash
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Member Since: 09 Jun 2005
Location: Ubique
Posts: 16534
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As much as I'd like to say that Torq-Tune in combination with 'premium' fuels will give you an edge, the reality is that the defining factor is the cetane rating of the fuel combined with the amount of carbon build- up in the engine & exhaust system (of course, Torq-Tune will improve the performance and / or fuel economy in any case  )
The cetane rating is a measure of the 'ignitability' of the diesel and starts declining from the point the diesel is refined, therefore, older fuel will give poorer mpg and performance than recently delivered fuel. Filling stations with a high turnover will deliver consistently better results than those that only get bulk deliveries once a week for example. Another contributory factor is outside temperature - lower temperatures increase the oxygen density, therefore more oxygen is available per burn cycle. So, fill up at well-used fuel stations, preferably just after a fresh tank has been brought on stream and drive when the air is cold and you'll get better fuel economy - the saving you make over a period of time can be used to pay for a Torq-Tune! TorqTune
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| Mon Nov 26 2007 6:36pm |
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