mzaver
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Should DSC always be turned OFF when going off road? I've done a quick search and found that turning off DSC is recommended. However, I've been to a few LR events where I've been advised to leave on DSC unless heading for mud. Thoughts? 2007 LR3 HSE - Zermatt Silver 
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CFB
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In my experience it should be off when climbing slippery slopes or if you get stuck in mud as it can kill engine power when you need it most, otherwise fine to leave it on.
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| Thu Dec 20 2007 3:54pm |
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ronp
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and OFF when deep wading! If I could think of anything intelligent, poignant or witty, I'd put it here !!!
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| Thu Dec 20 2007 4:02pm |
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DG
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What you have to think in any manouvere is "do I want intereference from the DSC ". In some driving conditions, to maximise traction, it may be beneficial to deactivate DSC.
Such conditions include:
• To rock the vehicle out of a hollow or out of a soft surface.
• Starting in deep snow or on a loose surface.
• Driving in deep sand.
• Driving on tracks with deep longitudinal ruts.
• Driving through deep mud.
Even with DSC switched off ..it's not really off it is only 80/90% off ...as proven by AndrewS  Existential Phenomenologist.
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| Thu Dec 20 2007 5:42pm |
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blue meanie
Member Since: 04 Aug 2005
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I've found with the MT/R's fitted and DSC off on the road, you can do some nice powerslides round slip-road bends when the roads are nice and greasy  ... I've looked but can't actually see that in the manual for some reason ?  and theeeeennn......???
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| Thu Dec 20 2007 5:56pm |
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AndrewS
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I usually leave DSC on until it impedes my progress. I then reverse turn it off and continue. There are the odd exceptions when I would turn it off, for instance knowing that I could not reverse and try again, climbing sand or when power and momentum are required.
The DSC cuts in when the car thinks its unstable. So we try and keep the car stable. By keeping the car stable you are maximising your grip. Sometimes turning the DSC off and driving fast will get you no further than driving the car and keeping it stable.
Marie proved this several times in France last year. She drove The Red Pearl easily up slopes that some other D3's struggled. In the Beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
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| Thu Dec 20 2007 6:23pm |
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Penguin
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off off off
And like DG says, even when off, it is still there bugging you when momentum is needed.
(You can see it very good on one of the video's I have when driving in the sand at Marcanterra) In a time of chimpanzees, I was a penguin.
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| Fri Dec 21 2007 8:03am |
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jkp
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blue meanie wrote:I've found with the MT/R's fitted and DSC off on the road, you can do some nice powerslides round slip-road bends when the roads are nice and greasy ... I've looked but can't actually see that in the manual for some reason ?
Nice to know someone else likes to have a play with this multi-purpose tool. I love scaring passengers with a wee bit of a drift as something that big and heavy should not be able to slide like it does  Not what it was....tbh can't be ar$ed with nonsense anymore
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| Fri Dec 21 2007 9:26am |
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DavidK
Member Since: 28 Aug 2007
Location: Sydney
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By a lucky coincident I did some testing of the DSC last night and then read this thread today.
It was raining here last night and I just happened to decide to test DSC on/off into a wet round-about on a tar road with Cooper STT tyres (about 15 approaches )....there was definetly some good movement of the backend with the DSC turned off when pushed.
What was funny was that with DSC turned off understeer became evident (when not trying to get the back to flick out, but pushing the car).
I personally turn DSC off when on any type of dirt - find that throttle response is improved. MY05 TDV6 S - manual, King springs lift, General Grabber AT
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Bushwanderer
Member Since: 27 Nov 2007
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DavidK wrote:By a lucky coincident I did some testing of the DSC last night and then read this thread today.
It was raining here last night and I just happened to decide to test DSC on/off into a wet round-about on a tar road with Cooper STT tyres (abount 15 approaches )....there was definetly some good movement of the backend with the DSC turned off when pushed.
What was funny was that with DSC turned off understeer became evident (when not trying to get the back to flick out, but pushing the car).
I personally turn DSC off when on any type of dirt - find that throttle response is improved.
Hi DavidK, And here was I beginning to believe that I had the only TDV6 manual, with coils in Australia.
I live near Epping, in Sydney. Where do you reside?
Best Wishes,
Peter
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| Fri Jan 04 2008 5:50am |
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jpi3418
Member Since: 01 Jun 2006
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Always switch DSC off when on sand, especially a beach. I've seen too many shots of D3's stuck on beaches with rising tides because their owners didn't switch the DSC off. Gotta get it dirty!
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| Wed Apr 16 2008 8:51am |
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norto
Member Since: 10 Apr 2006
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I take the ABS fuse out to disable
the traction control Peter
D3. The best 4x4 i have ever driven,
the worst car i have ever owned.
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| Wed Apr 16 2008 9:47am |
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Getafix
Member Since: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Melbourne
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Quote:I take the ABS fuse out to disable
the traction control
no negative side effects Norto?  <*(((<<
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| Wed Apr 16 2008 9:58am |
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norto
Member Since: 10 Apr 2006
Location: batemans bay
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None
but keep in mind ...its a coiler.
I must admit that i was a bit worried the first time i did it Peter
D3. The best 4x4 i have ever driven,
the worst car i have ever owned.
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| Wed Apr 16 2008 10:02am |
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hernan1304
Member Since: 28 Feb 2008
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Definitely turn it off in deep sand (I would suspect deep mud is much the same) - it kills engine power at exactly the wrong times. I notice the power fall-off more in low range than high... Of course now I'm fully expecting someone to tell me that DSC gets automatically deactivated in low range and I'm an idiot... anyone know?
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| Wed Apr 16 2008 11:09am |
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