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Land Rovers top London most stolen listings!
Land Rover cars have now topped the Transit van as the most stolen vehicles in London....
They are being stolen without keys via the relay attack method or via key compromise....
Whereas they were previously being exported there is an increasing number reappearing as rung vehicles and resold to the unsuspecting public....
If anyone on here is looking to buy privately please please be careful.. I am told the VIN stickers are replaced,as is the visible VIN, and they look very very good and would fool most people...
Unusually with some recovered recently the stamped in VIN is being ground out and filled and painted but to a high level. Thus it is imperative that you look properly for the stamped in VIN...if it’s not there where it should be run away as fast as you can!
You will lose all your hard earned cash buying one of these vehicles! You have no right to it as the ownership title will always remain with the original loser or their insurer!
Gents, I know i’ve been banging on about it for years but it is reality! Use a key pouch and/or switch off your keyless entry unless you consider it imperative...
Never hand your keys over to valeters, car wash operatives, car park staff unless you trust them .implicitly...
Please be careful buying though!
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21st Feb 2019 9:18 am
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
Member Since: 11 May 2006
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And don’t rely on a biscuit or oxo tin, that doesn’t work. Plus unfortunately the switch off keyless hack doesn’t work on all D4s.
21st Feb 2019 9:28 am
eightfoot
Member Since: 12 Apr 2015
Location: sunny essex
Posts: 763
have to disagree with you del as I keep both my keys in a cylindrical sweet tin filled with tin foil/old pie cases and if I take the tin right upto the door handle on my car it will not unlock mind you im not saying it will stop it being stolen but who knows ?? oh just for good measure I relocated the odb socketplease excuse any grammer/punctuation mistakes,i'm thick,thankyou
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21st Feb 2019 10:21 am
DG Site Moderator
Member Since: 12 Dec 2005
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You could just buy a D5 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
21st Feb 2019 10:24 am
FISHBOY
Member Since: 06 Sep 2010
Location: Kent
Posts: 754
eightfoot wrote:
have to disagree with you del as I keep both my keys in a cylindrical sweet tin filled with tin foil/old pie cases and if I take the tin right upto the door handle on my car it will not unlock mind you im not saying it will stop it being stolen but who knows ?? oh just for good measure I relocated the odb socket
My tin does the same, but have switched it off anyway.
Just wish I could get the horns to work! Last of the D4 HSE...
21st Feb 2019 10:27 am
eightfoot
Member Since: 12 Apr 2015
Location: sunny essex
Posts: 763
are you saying that a d5 wont get stolen as there so fugly ?? lolplease excuse any grammer/punctuation mistakes,i'm thick,thankyou
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21st Feb 2019 10:27 am
kajtzu
Member Since: 11 Aug 2017
Location: Helsinki
Posts: 6577
DG wrote:
You could just buy a D5
Thieves aren’t interested in it?
21st Feb 2019 10:28 am
Peakwayfarer
Member Since: 25 Apr 2016
Location: Uk
Posts: 434
The tin method should work assuming it's got a good fitting lid, that makes a good electrical contact with the base container forming a faraday cage
21st Feb 2019 12:42 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
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Should but doesn’t, lid fitted snug as a bug.
21st Feb 2019 1:25 pm
lynalldiscovery
Member Since: 22 Dec 2009
Location: Maidstone
Posts: 7274
Snug but was its electrically bonded?
21st Feb 2019 3:28 pm
nigethecat
Member Since: 11 Sep 2016
Location: Marnoch
Posts: 4153
DSL wrote:
And don’t rely on a biscuit or oxo tin, that doesn’t work. Plus unfortunately the switch off keyless hack doesn’t work on all D4s.
Next you'll be telling me that my foil hat won't stop the government reading my thoughts or aliens abducting me!!! as if....
I want to see the sweets before I get into your windowless van... I'm not stupid!
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21st Feb 2019 5:01 pm
nigethecat
Member Since: 11 Sep 2016
Location: Marnoch
Posts: 4153
DSL wrote:
And don’t rely on a biscuit or oxo tin, that doesn’t work. Plus unfortunately the switch off keyless hack doesn’t work on all D4s.
And how would a thief find the keys amongst all those biscuits ? I want to see the sweets before I get into your windowless van... I'm not stupid!
Corris Grey D4 Commercial SE 2016
Zermatt Sliver 2007 D3 SE manual (gone)
Indus Silver D4 HSE 2015 (gone)
Bonatti Grey D3 HSE 2006 (gone)
White D3 S (LHD) 2007 (gone)
Firenze Red D4 HSE 2014 (gone)
Black RRS 3.6TDV8 2008 (gone)
Rusty Green Defender 110 1997 (gone)
Black FL2 HSE 2013 (gone)
21st Feb 2019 5:07 pm
nigel207
Member Since: 26 Mar 2009
Location: Nottinghamshire
Posts: 1344
DSL wrote:
Should but doesn’t, lid fitted snug as a bug.
Not a plastic tin is it? I’ve tried a couple of metal ones and they work fine as the others have said.
You can keep your key in a faraday bag, inside a tin, inside a lead lined coffin six foot underground they do not need the key, all they do is smash a window get the iiDTool or similar and reprogram a blank key to the vehicle.
Even the disc locks only last 3 minutes before they are taken off and that’s the noisy way with an angle grinder ( check YouTube ) the stop locks that feed through the steering wheel are the same less than 30 seconds.
Tracker and immobiliser are the same they just scan where the frequency is emitting from the car rip the panel off and disable said tracker or immobiliser, so what can we do,
Basically make it less attractive to steal, multiple layers of security like above but not just one, so odb lock, immobiliser, tracker steering lock I know it costs but I am still totting my losses up, luckily I had GAP Return to purchase cover but all the other bits I had in/on my D4 like the new tyres, timing belt, megaflush, rock slider, sump guard etc plus bits inside I am over £4K down.
The later D4’s 15/16 MY I believe had the KVM locked to two keys so that will help but like my 12MY was unlocked we need to do more. Ultimately if they want it they will take it but let’s make it harder for them.Goodyear Duratracs
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21st Feb 2019 8:36 pm
IndusD4
Member Since: 01 Dec 2011
Location: Sydney, NSW
Posts: 308
Surely it is not that simple to code a key, as with the IIDTool you need to have the ignition on. Which means you need a key to start with?2016 D4 TDV6 Corris Grey
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