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Location: Scotland
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Likely costs of keeping a 5 year old D4 a few more years?
Have a five year old D4 on 65k miles. No advisories on MOT (local garage) and just had LR service. Question is do I move it on on run it another 2-3 years at 15k miles pa?
I have just the rear brake lines replaced with copper. Fronts will need doing next year but the cost is not high. Talking to the garage it is likely that in a year or so I will need front lower arms and rear upper arms. I would have this done at my local garage and would not use LR OEM parts. What sort of costs for this?
I will also need new brakes all round at some stage in the next year and then there is the year seven belt change. I tend to get LR to do the annual service to keep the (virtual) stamp but use my local garage (they drive D4s) for other work.
I guess depreciation is now only about £3k pa so that is the trade off against repair costs. Lots to think about!2014MY Discovery
1st Apr 2019 11:18 am
Gareth Site Moderator
Member Since: 07 Dec 2004
Location: Bramhall
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As a guide, my D4 is just 6 years old, 13 reg. now has 103k on the clock.
Just had front lower and upper, and rear upper wishbones replaced. Main dealer price was a tad over £2300 😂 Luckily Warranty direct paid all but £450. This was the second replacement of the front lower arms, main dealer did them at 72k. No idea why they failed so soon?
I have just done all the brakes myself, using Britpart discs and pads. No issues so far and not very expensive parts.
My brake pipes are fine so far, no visible corrosion.
1st Apr 2019 11:27 am
110CSW
Member Since: 19 Oct 2005
Location: Scotland
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Helpful, thanks. My rear brake lines needed doing to pass the five year old MOT but we use a lot of road salt up here. Have used non OEM brakes before and am happy with them and the much cheaper prices. Suspension bushes going at about 80k is what I am told but not as many motorways up here either so less cruising in the total miles.2014MY Discovery
1st Apr 2019 11:41 am
Browny90
Member Since: 19 Jul 2016
Location: Ashbourne
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Mine is 2012 and just hit 140,000, I hate to jinx it, but all is going strong.
I replaced the rear uppers last weekend (I do the work myself so pretty cheap) the front lowers were replaced last summer.
I'm currently going through the 'should I' phase.. but at the same time, I love my D4 and thinking of just taking the risk and I guess absolute worst case I'll be putting an engine it..
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If I was in your shoes I would keep the D4 for another 2-3 years without a doubt.
I would change the belts now & fit a new oil pump at the same time. When you sell you will have part of the benefit of the new oil pump, and in the interim will sleep better. A private purchaser will also recognise that early belt & oil pump change shows prudence - IMO.
Finally I would cost & consider taking out a suitable warranty & maybe GAP insurance, whilst these are still available to you.
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1st Apr 2019 12:05 pm
Jeremy
Member Since: 24 Jul 2008
Location: Kingston-upon-Thames
Posts: 169
My 2012 D4 HSE with 78k miles just had the 96k service with belts and zero advisories done at Wimbledon LR. I changed the brakes to better ones from Brit Parts. Just don't see the point of selling her privately (I was bid £20k) or trading it vs a new D5 HSE (equivalent £62k from Carwow) when the dealer offers me £15k. I've been lucky that she's been pretty bullet proof.
1st Apr 2019 12:23 pm
adam
Member Since: 20 Sep 2005
Location: Home and Happy
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I took mine up to 8 years, 9 months.
Belts done, suspension done, turbo drain mod. Rear brake pipes replaced - that was about it though front suspension needed some attention before I chopped it in.
Had about 115K on the clock.
All above probably cost c.£2K at local indy over 2 years over an above usual servicing costs and tyres.
Interestingly, I just checked it for an MOT and plate can't be found - even though when I checked in February it had just been taxed and MOT'd - so maybe its now on a private plate (or heavens forbid - a W/O?)Now Golf GTI PP, 7 speed DSG.
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1st Apr 2019 12:37 pm
Thelo3
Member Since: 23 Feb 2011
Location: Nothamptonshire
Posts: 287
I guess depreciation is now only about £3k pa
I think you will be lucky with that! Just sold my 2014 D4 and according to WBAC it was losing £500 every 7 days😭😭😭😭D4 HSE Lux - Santorini, Privacy, RLD Protector
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2nd Apr 2019 7:40 pm
Dusty
Member Since: 23 Sep 2013
Location: London
Posts: 1022
+1 for above.
WBAC valuation less than 3 months ago was a tad over £30k
Got one yesterday £24.4k
They seem to be dropping like a stone!!Discovery 4 HSE
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2nd Apr 2019 7:51 pm
Disco_Mikey
Member Since: 29 May 2007
Location: Dundee, Scotland
Posts: 20732
Budget for a gearbox flush
Timing belts
Front lower/rear upper arms, if not already done
Possibly an inlet manifold
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Dusty wrote:
+1 for above.
WBAC valuation less than 3 months ago was a tad over £30k
Got one yesterday £24.4k
They seem to be dropping like a stone!!
Trouble is, middle of the range, 18month old D5s with average miles are down to 35K now.2014 D4 XS
2005 D3 SE - Gone
2nd Apr 2019 8:08 pm
J@mes
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2nd Apr 2019 8:10 pm
110CSW
Member Since: 19 Oct 2005
Location: Scotland
Posts: 796
Some good stuff here, thanks.
Am looking at an XC90 and they are ok but nothing is as good as a D4.
All WBAC values of more expensive/big cars have been collapsing but when Brexit etc is sorted I am sure there maybe some recovery. I'm more worried about Euro 5 diesels being banned from the Scottish cities medium term as that would cause me a headache.
I think that the suspension/gearbox flush comments are worth following. As for the belts service, I am happy to wait until year 7. Brakes are cheap enough so will deal with as and when.2014MY Discovery
3rd Apr 2019 10:35 am
110CSW
Member Since: 19 Oct 2005
Location: Scotland
Posts: 796
Disco_Mikey wrote:
Budget for a gearbox flush
Timing belts
Front lower/rear upper arms, if not already done
Possibly an inlet manifold
What sort of costs for front lower and rear upper arms? Ta2014MY Discovery
3rd Apr 2019 10:35 am
Disco_Mikey
Member Since: 29 May 2007
Location: Dundee, Scotland
Posts: 20732
£550 supplied and fitted with HD arms and new bolts
Rear uppers are £400 for D4 arms, or £450 for RRS arms, Inc new bolts
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