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Battery cable gauge

Sorry if this is posted somewhere, I just couldn't find it.

What gauge should the positive cable be from a front mounted leisure battery to the rear tailgate? About 6m length.

Just for a 12v compressor fridge, 12v lights, USB etc.

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Pete
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As big as you can, to have the least losses. I'd have thought a 4mm² would do it.
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depends on what you're prepared to accept as a transmission loss whihc is in turn dependent on how much current you intend to pull.
12v planet has a cable calculator in their knowledge base probably at least 6m of cable by the time you've done the wiggles round for routing etc maybe 7m

to get better than a 3% drop at 14v you'd be looking at 8.5mm
https://www.12voltplanet.co.uk/cable-sizing-selection.html
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Richard, Duc750 - thanks both.

I feared the technical explanation way over my head, but you're clear that size matters.

I assume this will cover the bases?

https://simplysplitcharge.co.uk/fuse-box-d...e-box.html

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10mm² is way overkill for a fridge and some lights, but it wont fail!
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Richard

thanks, I'm in a space I just don't understand

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rrhool wrote:
10mm² is way overkill for a fridge and some lights, but it wont fail!


and could potentially allow a battery in the boot too ?
  
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Thanks, plan is for the second battery up front, I just wasn't sure if I then needed a battery type cable to the rear.

Seems not.

Thanks

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There's nothing special about "battery cable" really it's just how the vendors classify it most of the time. In reality it's larger cross sectional cable with good copper content and decent insulation.
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Thanks, on that basis I'm going for some thickish bendy stuff in red.

Just need to figure how best to get from front to back.

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That's actually the easy bit. You have the channels for the existing wiring on the floor running from the a post to the c post.

The bendyness is generally proportional to the quality of the insulation and the copper inside it.
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Thanks, hope so.

I'll take a look at how to remove the carpets/trims.

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No carpet needs to go to get through to the c post. Run the cable through the clutch cabl gromit and then down the inside of the a post into the cable channel. Lift up all the plastic trim remembering catch the 11 million metal clips that have just sprung out with a range equivalent to an intercontinental ballistic missile. Drop the cable in and secure it. Routing to the back bins requires some trim removal in the rear quarter
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I've just had the back bumper and arches off to fit a wheel carrier. Know what you mean about the clips Laughing

Maybe underneath along the chassis?

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There is a few threads on here, no need to run cable on the chassis !!
Just put "split charge" into the search bar
here is a post where i just run one myself
https://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/split-charg...99782.html
  
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